72 roadrunner/GTX super track pac car ??

[69Coronetrt]

I thought all of the 219 440 4 speeds for 72 had the Dana 3:54. However I am curious if I have the A33 option on my fender tag...

What was coded, when it was coded and even where it was coded on the tag varies by year, plant and even time of year. What was coded early in the year may not have been coded later.


As stated above, Windsor may have coded A33 early in the year but not later. More examples would help with knowing for sure.

if the tag shows E86 D21, A33 is indicated even tho it may not be actually coded on the tag. The only way to get a four speed behind the 440 is with the package that includes the Dana.

 

[mopar 3 B]

I thought all of the 219 440 4 speeds for 72 had the Dana 3:54. However I am curious if I have the A33 option on my fender tag...

That is correct is to my understanding. I have yet to see information that would verify a 4:10 offering in 72. It has also been debated the body offerings of the 219 four speed cars. I have seen varying under frame offerings that no own has been able to explain.

 

[Scott72GTX]

What was coded, when it was coded and even where it was coded on the tag varies by year, plant and even time of year. What was coded early in the year may not have been coded later.


As stated above, Windsor may have coded A33 early in the year but not later. More examples would help with knowing for sure.

if the tag shows E86 D21, A33 is indicated even tho it may not be actually coded on the tag. The only way to get a four speed behind the 440 is with the package that includes the Dana.

 

[Scott72GTX]

I agree... just curious what my tag reads. It’s in storage, so it may take me a couple of days to check. Looking at the numbers, these are rare cars. I almost had to give mine up a couple of times, but I have been holding tight. lol. Last year for the Dana!

 

[mopar 3 B]

When compared to GM numbers anything still alive Mopar is rare. A rare Corvettes production numbers are ridicules in comparison. Just got to laugh when they claim how rare they are. Like a few thousand people still own them. Really!

 

[butterscotch71]

Super Trak Pack not available in 72.

Not sure where the production numbers come from. White book shows 219 440 four speeds built for sale in the US.

I have conflicting info on whether Windsor coded A33 on the tag or not. I have one example of an early car with A33 and two late tags without A33. The first could be a bad remake but I’m not sure.

I have only one example in my database/registry of an A33 on the tag (a december 71 built car), and I believe the tag is a repop

 

[moparsaver]

That is correct is to my understanding. I have yet to see information that would verify a 4:10 offering in 72

The 72 data book has no offering of a 4:10. Also, footnote 4 indicates “Track Pak”...Not “Super Track Pak”

 

[69Coronetrt]

I have only one example in my database/registry of an A33 on the tag (a december 71 built car), and I believe the tag is a repop

19759#?

That's the only 72 A33 tag I have and I, too, thought it was a bad remake but I wasn't sure.

 

[YY1]

Bizarre about:

A- 7 1/4 axle still available in a B body

B- 440+6 option info

C- 9 1/4 axle spec for 440+6 only

 

[moparmarks]

Bizarre about:

A- 7 1/4 axle still available in a B body

B- 440+6 option info

C- 9 1/4 axle spec for 440+6 only

Thats 9 3/4, Dana, not 9 1/4.

 

[butterscotch71]

19759#?

That's the only 72 A33 tag I have and I, too, thought it was a bad remake but I wasn't sure.

Yup, you sent me the tag photo years ago. It also has another code that isn’t correct (radio code).

 

[66Satellite47]

I need my memory refreshed, was the 440-6 actually offered in 1972? I don't recall that. I see that referenced in the post #27 literature, not sure if that's accurate.

 

[moparsaver]

I need my memory refreshed, was the 440-6 actually offered in 1972? I don't recall that. I see that referenced in the post #27 literature, not sure if that's accurate.

The pictures I’m posting are from the factory dealership data book.
It is the finest form of accuracy.

 

[72RoadrunnerGTX]

I need my memory refreshed, was the 440-6 actually offered in 1972? I don't recall that. I see that referenced in the post #27 literature, not sure if that's accurate.

A ’72 “V” code engine option was planned and most all preproduction factory documentation for model year 1972 contain specifications for, and references to, a 1972 version of a 440-6. Information today indicates that after early evaporative emissions tests showed they would not consistently meet evaporative emissions standards for ’72, and after a handful were built, the option was cancelled. All further “V-code” orders were changed to U-codes. Search for 72 six packs, you’ll find much discussion on the topic.

 

[66Satellite47]

The pictures I’m posting are from the factory dealership data book.
It is the finest form of accuracy.
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I repeat, '71 Challenger sales brochure featured a '71 TA model on the cover, never produced. Seems like every year had a few factory "one off" or assembly line errors. I buy 72Roadrunner's explanation.

 

[moparsaver]

I repeat, '71 Challenger sales brochure featured a '71 TA model on the cover, never produced. Seems like every year had a few factory "one off" or assembly line errors. I buy 72Roadrunner's explanation.

Not real sure where you are going with this. The factory data books tell the facts. I cannot speak to your claim of a sales brochure featuring a 71 T/A Challenger... But, Here’s 71 and 72 dodge data books.. specifically Challenger and there is no mention of T/A. Seems correct, yes? I was trying to answer your question of “was the 440-6 actually offered for 72”. Yes, it was offered.

 

[66Satellite47]

Point is, some of the literature is not always correct. The '71 TA is a glaring example.

 

[moparsaver]

Point is, some of the literature is not always correct. The '71 TA is a glaring example.

There is no point here. And I mean no disrespect. The data books are correct. Period. Start a new thread on your 71 T/A theory if you’d like. Back to the OP.

 

[Photon440]

You can get online views of the data books at the Hamtramck Registry. http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/dealerships/1972PlymouthDealershipDataBook-05.shtml

Note that the site includes the disclaimer "They were not meant to be a "complete" list of options, and since they were printed just as the new model year began these books do contain some errors at times."

 

[moparsaver]

You can get online views of the data books at the Hamtramck Registry. http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/dealerships/1972PlymouthDealershipDataBook-05.shtml

Note that the site includes the disclaimer "They were not meant to be a "complete" list of options, and since they were printed just as the new model year began these books do contain some errors at times."

Correct...”The sites” disclaimer that “their” information is incomplete is accurate. The site is showing a handful of pages only. And the sites pictures are not the final version that went in the actual books. That is my understanding of them as having worked at my local Chrysler Plymouth dealer.