Steven Bowers
Well-Known Member
I’m going to change my A833 4 speed transmission fluid ….asking for suggestions on the best type and weight oil to put back in it…..also how much does it hold…..
Thanks, can you tell me how many bottles to use
Dry fill is 4 Quarts. 3 1/2 if you are draining and refilling. I use a hose and fill it from the top side. (engine compartment)Thanks, can you tell me how many bottles to use
What a great idea, some of this, a bit of that, just mix and match in the driveway!Lots of guys on here have posted they use two quarts of ATF fluid and then two of your choice of tranny lube and they shift great. Thats what I am planning to use.....
Lots of guys on here have posted they use two quarts of ATF fluid and then two of your choice of tranny lube and they shift great. Thats what I am planning to use.....
Sounds as though you know the proper oil to use…I’ve never heard of using ATF in a A833 Four Speed…Perhaps, these "guys" will be willing to share the cost of the transmission rebuild/repair due to seal failure, synchronizer failure (especially the ones on the main shaft) and actual gear tooth wear. "Great" is a subjective term that means nothing, unless documented...IMO. What is being compared: cost, temperature, MPG, ease in shifting-cold vs hot, MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure) lower ETs?. Maybe this is a "they said" rule.
ATF has totally different lubricating properties, and coefficient of friction level to promote long clutch friction disc life. The gear separating forces in a 4 speed transmission are totally different than those on an automatic transmission's planetary gear train as these gears are contained by the ring gear and tend to be cancelled out. Manual transmission lubricants contain an EP (Extreme Pressure) additives, a viscosity and film strength high enough to prevent actual metal to metal contact of the counter shaft and main shaft gearing during extreme loading conditions....like 1/4 mile contests. For my application, I'll continue to use a synthetic 80W-90 gear lubricant like a Mobile1 product, but to each his own....
BOB RENTON
I also use the Sta-Bil as Dan Brewer advised In my fresh rebuilt 18 spline. Shifts great, no worriesBrewers recommends Sta-lube #SL-24239. GL-4 is a must. Get a one gallon jug and you have all you need. You can get it at Napa and Walmart.
They seem to know what they are doing with manual transmissions so I use it.
Perhaps, these "guys" will be willing to share the cost of the transmission rebuild/repair due to seal failure, synchronizer failure (especially the ones on the main shaft) and actual gear tooth wear. "Great" is a subjective term that means nothing, unless documented...IMO. What is being compared: cost, temperature, MPG, ease in shifting-cold vs hot, MTBF (Mean Time Before Failure) lower ETs?. Maybe this is a "they said" rule.
ATF has totally different lubricating properties, and coefficient of friction level to promote long clutch friction disc life. The gear separating forces in a 4 speed transmission are totally different than those on an automatic transmission's planetary gear train as these gears are contained by the ring gear and tend to be cancelled out. Manual transmission lubricants contain an EP (Extreme Pressure) additives, a viscosity and film strength high enough to prevent actual metal to metal contact of the counter shaft and main shaft gearing during extreme loading conditions....like 1/4 mile contests. For my application, I'll continue to use a synthetic 80W-90 gear lubricant like a Mobile1 product, but to each his own....
BOB RENTON