Anybody have knowledge of Gates industrial belts, need an odd belt...

[1 Wild R/T]

So, working on an older piece of agricultural equipment.... A tree shaker for getting the nuts out of trees.... It has recently been eating belts, I replaced the bearings in the idler pulley and the bearings in the shaking component also replaced the bushings in the hinged arm... Now I'm trying to source a proper belt... All the places are offering a belt of the proper length but the wrong shape, What they are showing is a hexagon shaped belt with equal length sides... the equal length sides lets the belt roll in the pulleys... The original belt for this machine is an elongated hex, the long sides create a deep V which rides deep in the pulleys preventing the belt rolling over in the pulleys... The shaking is pretty violent & the belts get a lot of weird forces acting on them..

The original Gates belt number is CC210X/AEXP. The belt cross section is shaped similar to my sketch

The belt being offered is a CC210. It's cross section is shown below...


I've tried quite a few local suppliers including one I use to work for... I've poked around online... I've had no luck.. So I'm hoping someone has a background in this sort of thing and can help me sort it out... Thanks!

 

[kiwigtx]

I've tried quite a few local suppliers including one I use to work for... I've poked around online... I've had no luck.. So I'm hoping someone has a background in this sort of thing and can help me sort it out... Thanks!

I've had a bit of a poke around also, and seen pretty much everything he same as your hexagon types above that won't work.

Have you considered changing the drive to Serpentine at all? Gear and idler changes ....may be able to find a belt that works, and more importantly one that stays in place while the machine is running.

 

[1967coronet]

I ran your gates # through a large John Deer parts sight and only come up with V belts to cross over.

 

[toolmanmike]

So, working on an older piece of agricultural equipment.... A tree shaker for getting the nuts out of trees.... It has recently been eating belts, I replaced the bearings in the idler pulley and the bearings in the shaking component also replaced the bushings in the hinged arm... Now I'm trying to source a proper belt... All the places are offering a belt of the proper length but the wrong shape, What they are showing is a hexagon shaped belt with equal length sides... the equal length sides lets the belt roll in the pulleys... The original belt for this machine is an elongated hex, the long sides create a deep V which rides deep in the pulleys preventing the belt rolling over in the pulleys... The shaking is pretty violent & the belts get a lot of weird forces acting on them..

The original Gates belt number is CC210X/AEXP. The belt cross section is shaped similar to my sketch

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The belt being offered is a CC210. It's cross section is shown below...
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I've tried quite a few local suppliers including one I use to work for... I've poked around online... I've had no luck.. So I'm hoping someone has a background in this sort of thing and can help me sort it out... Thanks!

Wow, that's a strange shape for sure. The double belt in the bottom photo is used on riding mower decks and they are designed to drive off both sides. Some of those decks have a crazy belt routing.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

I've had a bit of a poke around also, and seen pretty much everything he same as your hexagon types above that won't work.

Have you considered changing the drive to Serpentine at all? Gear and idler changes ....may be able to find a belt that works, and more importantly one that stays in place while the machine is running.

Changing to serpentine won't work, the belt routing causes the belt to turn in ways a multi groove belt could never duplicate...

The picture below is of a newer machine that doesn't use an idler but it is similar....

Plus the belt is 210 inches long, about 7/8" wide and 1 1/4"