Bogart Racing Wheels making Super Trick Style Wheels

[Mike Gaines]

I just got off the phone with Bogart Wheel. They confirmed they are making their new wheel which is styled exactly like the old Cragar Super Trick. Any Size, Offset or bolt pattern.
He said to call back tomorrow to get pricing etc.
The posting on the thread named ( Super Tricks, where are they now) has a picture off their website.
You can get their phone number and info from:
Bogart Racing Wheels.com
or Facebook on Bogart Racing Wheels.

 

[moparcrazy]

The New Bogart wheel !

 

[Cranky]

Figured if I kept mine long enough, they would be back in style before I died lol

 

[Mike Gaines]

Figured if I kept mine long enough, they would be back in style before I died lol

Cranky...the darn thing about it....if we wait long enuf WE will never become back in style...LOL

 

[Mike Gaines]

The New Bogart wheel !
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I was in the custom wheel manufacturing business from 1970 thru 1990.
In the mid 1980's the forerunner to Bogart Racing Wheels was a company named Monocoque Wheel in the San Diego area. Monocoque Wheel was the true originator or the lightweight spun aluminum wheel. CRAGAR WHEEL picked up on the coming demand for such a wheel made exclusively for drag racing. They then started producing the CRAGAR Super Trick Wheel. It was made in 2 halfs and then bolted together. This wheel immediately took over as the absolute most popular wheel for drag racing because of it very light weight.
As stated above, I was with FENTON WHEEL COMPANY during all this time. Before the advent of the Cragar Super Trick 99% of all drag racers were using our lightweight 15x3.5 aluminum slot wheel (called the Gyro) on the front of their drag race cars. We also made a 15x11 for the rear.
Top racers including Don Nicholson, Don Carlton (Mopar Missile), Mancini (Gratiot Auto Supply), Bill Bagshaw (Red Light Bandit) just to name a few. About the only racers not using our wheels were Sox& Martin, Bill Jenkins and Dick Landy were all under contract with either Cragar or Keystone.
But...to put due where due it due.....it was that small company (Monocoque Wheel) that started the whole Super Trick business.

 

[19polara64]

So where does Centerline come into the picture?

 

[Mike Gaines]

So where does Centerline come into the picture?

Best I can remember is that Centerline came into the picture with their Drag Racing Wheels (Called the AutoDrag) in the middle 1980's. At the time Centerline came into the picture Cragar basically owned the drag racing market. The Cragar Supertrick, as you know, was a 2 piece wheel bolted together.
The Centerline wheel was 2 halfs RIVITED together and many racers thought it was just a better wheel so Centerline took a huge chunk of the drag racing market.
To make things clear....Cragar Supertricks were ALWAYS bolted together and Centerline AutoDrag wheels were ALWAYS riveted together.
Later on Centerline came out with additional styles of wheels and still does today.
Many people don't know the origin of Centerline.
Centerline Stamping was a business in Los Angeles that actually stamped most of the styled steel centers for many, many manufactures. It was owned at the time by a man named Ray Lipper. Centerline stamped many different styles and supplied them to the various custom wheel companies in a raw, unplated state. The custom wheel companies would them chrome plate these centers, press them into a chrome plate steel rim and then weld them together.
As outlined above Centerline morphed into a supplier of the Centerline Drag Racing Wheels.

 

[Dodge 330]

Centerline is out of business now.

 

[not so famous bob]

not trying to change the subject, but does anyone remember a wheel made by fenton / called shark / I bought a pair of 3 1/2'' sharks from a well known hemi guru around here , "way back in the day", when he went to newer styled wheels on the front of his prostocker.
I couldn`t believe, and still don`t , how lite those were! I swear I could almost twirl them one one finger !!
He told me not to run them on the street -----------

 

[69roadr]

My 1980s era centerline's you can bounce them like a basketball

 

[not so famous bob]

My 1980s era centerline's you can bounce them like a basketballView attachment 716642

Always liked those !!

 

[Frustration]

Thanks for posting this Mike! I started that "Super Trick" thread. Since then, I purchased six wheels...two sets of rears and one set of fronts. The new version by Bogart are gorgeous! I'm thinking that if you were to change the head of the bolts that bolt the two halves together, they'd look almost identical. Being a nostalgia nut, I'll stick with the originals. I will check pricing for the Bogart's though...just to make me feel better about my purchases...LOL

 

[Mike Gaines]

not trying to change the subject, but does anyone remember a wheel made by fenton / called shark / I bought a pair of 3 1/2'' sharks from a well known hemi guru around here , "way back in the day", when he went to newer styled wheels on the front of his prostocker.
I couldn`t believe, and still don`t , how lite those were! I swear I could almost twirl them one one finger !!
He told me not to run them on the street -----------

Bob...Since I was Senior Vice President & General Manager at FENTON WHEEL I, do, of course remember the FENTON SHARK wheel. We did make them in a 15x4 size for the front but we did NOT make a 15x3.5 model in the Shark wheel. These Sharks were not really that light. We used a cast aluminum, chrome plated center welded into a 4" wide, 15" wide chrome plated steel rim. We made it for the front of drag race cars. We then later came out with our aluminum front wheel
Our really light front wheel was our 15x3.5 FENTON GYRO. These wheels were the lightest front wheel available during about a 4 year time period before Cragar came out with their SuperTrick.
The FENTON GYRO 15x3.5 front wheel was a "slotted dish style" made in a 1 piece cast construction....we made it expressly for the use on the front of drag race cars.

 

[mmissile]

No Bogart wheels for me, thank you.


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[mmissile]

Bob...Since I was Senior Vice President & General Manager at FENTON WHEEL
Our really light front wheel was our 15x3.5 FENTON GYRO. These wheels were the lightest front wheel available during about a 4 year time period before Cragar came out with their SuperTrick.
The FENTON GYRO 15x3.5 front wheel was a "slotted dish style" made in a 1 piece cast construction....we made it expressly for the use on the front of drag race cars.

Very cool, Mike.

I'm looking for some wide rear, Gyro wheels. I have 2 pr. of 3 1/2" fronts. That, and some wide Keystone Klassics. When I get those...I'm gonna dump some Tricks.

 

[Mike Gaines]

Very cool, Mike.

I'm looking for some wide rear, Gyro wheels. I have 2 pr. of 3 1/2" fronts. That, and some wide Keystone Klassics. When I get those...I'm gonna dump some Tricks.

You would be looking for our 15x11 Gyro...this is the wheel that most of the Pro Stock and Super Stock racers teamed up with our 15x3.5 Front Wheel

 

[not so famous bob]

Bob...Since I was Senior Vice President & General Manager at FENTON WHEEL I, do, of course remember the FENTON SHARK wheel. We did make them in a 15x4 size for the front but we did NOT make a 15x3.5 model in the Shark wheel. These Sharks were not really that light. We used a cast aluminum, chrome plated center welded into a 4" wide, 15" wide chrome plated steel rim. We made it for the front of drag race cars. We then later came out with our aluminum front wheel
Our really light front wheel was our 15x3.5 FENTON GYRO. These wheels were the lightest front wheel available during about a 4 year time period before Cragar came out with their SuperTrick.
The FENTON GYRO 15x3.5 front wheel was a "slotted dish style" made in a 1 piece cast construction....we made it expressly for the use on the front of drag race cars.

That was around 40 yrs ago, I very well could be wrong on the 3 1/2 to 4 thing. The ones I had, had factory black spokes . They were liter than my later cragar spun alum. wheels. Could I and the prostock owner be wrong on what they were to start with / I don't know.
I think he got them from Don Grotheer to start with--------

 

[Mike Gaines]

That was around 40 yrs ago, I very well could be wrong on the 3 1/2 to 4 thing. The ones I had, had factory black spokes . They were liter than my later cragar spun alum. wheels. Could I and the prostock owner be wrong on what they were to start with / I don't know.
I think he got them from Don Grotheer to start with--------

I am now not sure about the wheels. Don Grotheer was 1 of the racers that I did supply wheels to at no charge. He was on the program,

 

[Budnicks]

Here's the old SST Super Tricks by Crager
chromed, with steel outer rims & alum inners/centers\
SFI rated, usable on the street, it's in their org. advert.
available in 14" x 6" to 15" x 10"

an old 1968 advert from Fenton

another slotted wheel advert from Fenton,
looks to be 1 piece wheels,
Gyro 3-1/2" to 8-1/2" x 15"
not sure the year

 

[Budnicks]

dual pattern ford/Chry 4.5" & GM 4.750" org. spun alum. versions

More org. Crager Super Tricks
IIRC this was some guy over on MoFarts board had a hoard of them
mostly dual pattern spun alum racing wheels

I had them in a front Anglia style spindle mount on my 1st altered
IIRC brushed finish
& the rears 15" X 14" IIRC, org. had 14" x 32" Goodyears on it

my 67 Camaro S/G in the background was a Polished Centerline "drag lite" equipped car

my personal favorites are still the Halibrand's "a real Magnesium lightweight wheels"