Ron Francis wiring.

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  1. rocky61201

    rocky61201 Well-Known Member

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    Ron Francis Retro Series Harness

    i've installed the Ron Francis Retro Series Harness on my 71 Charger. It didn't take 30 min, but was fairly easy and quick. I too have a 383 and mopar electronic ignition. Hooked everything up and fired the motor on the 1rd pull. Only extra thing I did buy in addition to the harness was the Ron Francis version of their mopar alternator regulator just because it was plug n play with this harness and figured why not replace the stock old one i had anyway.

    I did spend some extra money at the local parts store on zip ties, tape, shrink wrap, and stuff. Also found the correct bullet type connectors to plug into the stock non ralley dash.

    I haven't hooked in the headlights and taillights yet cuz the car is being repainted right now but I have tested the circuits and they work just fine. Getting new connectors for those shouldn't cost much either.

    I have a thread with pics on the 71-74 charger forum also. But i am planning on redoing the whole thing again after paint so I can hide most of the engine bay wiring that you might see in those pics.
     
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      I remember Ron Francis from back in the early 80s building street rod harnesses.Anyone thats made it 30 years must build a quality product.
       
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      You can't go wrong with RFWW. This guy knows his business. I looked at all of the wiring companys before I decided on Ron Francis Wire Works. The nice thing about RFWW products is the kits are specific to your make model and year. No suprise's... you do your research, concider your options and they build the harness for you. I am building a high end Net, and wont settle for second best or a hundred bucks cheaper... order his catalog and you will see this company is thee best. I am going for the 24/7 due to the side loading wires and the way it mounts anywhere with a magnet. Because my Net is dipped in epoxy sealer, powder coating and paint, I will be using the buss bar grounding system Ron sells. Every single circuit on the whole car will be grounded to the Engine block via the Buss bar... Very smart.... cant have enough grounds.
       
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      I'm not a fan of the RF kits myself - I don't like the added screw set terminal end of the fuse block...

      I have used just about every wiring harness available (Painless, Ron Francis, EZ, ISIS, M&H...) they all have their upsides and downsides...
       
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      Kind of like chicks....
       
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      I just ordered the Ron Francis kit too. Did quite a bit of research on the different vendors and on here as well. I don't really care for the MOPAR bulkhead connector and since I am changing so much stuff ( gages, fuel injection, ignition, one wire alternator, etc) it just made sense to bite the bullet now while the engine and heater box are out. Thanks to everyone who posted on here with their opinions!
       
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      X2 on M&H, can you say "plug & play"
       
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      Ron Francis harness

      I ordered the ron Francis xp-68 mopar harness and I've spent months trying to install it.
      There is not much mopar about it.There are no sub harnesses.You have to make your own.There are no connectors for the tail lights or anything from the firewall back.For the conv. top they sent me three rolls of wire.You want plugs?That will be extra.The wiring for the dimmer switch fits a chevy.That will be extra.Don't expect this to be a simple job.I've shelled out $1600 on labor so far and I'm not done yet.The quality of the parts is good but you need a lot of money and an expert automotive electrician to install this bunch of wires with hardly any terminals on them.I'm trying to hook up the stock gauges now.No plugs for the two 5 pin connectors .You have to destroy your stock harness-pirate those plugs- then splice and figure out where these 10 wires go-Good f-----g luck.
       
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      i have used a few ron francis harnesses in 41 willys coupe street rods without any issues, so i like them, but if i am going to do a relatively stock mopar with lets say electronic ignition or maybe stereo system i would stay with stock style harnesses, you can buy all the stuff brand new, i know it will be alittle more expensive at first, but you will save alot of time on labor, i did not read all of the posts, so this may have already been discussed, just my 2 cents.
       
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      Ok, I'm more confused then ever now. My loom isn't 'stuffed' but it's not good so I was going to replace it once I got the car back from the painters.

      Originally I was going to go with Year One's (M&H), love that its an exact copy, but the price is high and my car isn't a valuable original, it'll essentially be a day 2 style mod.

      The Ron Francis harnesses look good, love the modernisation, but if they aren't plug and play then I'm not really interested. I don't mind a few things but I don't want to be re-using old plug from my current loom to make it work! They're old and not in good nick, hence the reason for the new loom!

      AB&E seam to be perpetually 'out of stock' so I assume they're not doing them anymore? They're also the middle price point between RF and YO's.

      Are there any other wiring kits out there that are plug and play for our cars?? Mine's a 68 Coronet with a 440 and electronic ignition.
       
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      Go with the M&H harness. Unless (and I do stress UNLESS) you are upgrading your system extensively. Huge alternators, aftermarket gauges, electric fans (which should use bigger alternators), and that type of stuff.
      If you're doing a mostly stock vehicle, the M&H stuff will cost you more up front, but you will save on labor and serviceability will be as close as a factory service manual. They do offer upgraded engine harnesses for electronic ignitions and dual field alternators.
       
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        THanks Revhendo, Thats kind of what I was leaning to. Not looking forward to the initial outlay. But I was looking forward to rewiring a new harness even less.
         
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        I ended up going with M&H (when YO has their 30% days) and will be installing it this winter, the only upgrade I'll probably do is a electric fan....no more 40 year old wiring gremlins for me anymore - I'm sick of them!
         
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        just finished my RFW install. I used their 24/7 kit for mopars. It took a little while. Maybe 30-35 hours, including pulling out the old harness, etc. Of course that includes connecting up an MSD ignition and fuel injection harness and a new gage harness and push button start. All new wires front to back. The only thing I used off the old harness were the parking and tail light plugs. Great instructions, geat folks to work with, and a great product.
         
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