Setting Windshield Glass-Post War

[1STMP]

Hey all,
I'm getting close to registering my "specialty'
built truck. I'm going to attempt to install the
windshield glass in a pre-war (1940) two piece
windshield frame comprised of a upper and
lower section of frame with a divider in the
center. The frame is mounted to the truck via
two hinges at the top, with a center mounted
crank mounted at the bottom that allows the
windshield frame to tilt outward. There is a gasket
installed around the outside perimeter of of the
frame, but unlike modern times, it's not to hold
the frame in place, but only acts as a seal.
Modern day glass shops use a setting tape to
secure the pane in the frame. I'm pretty sure
OEM didn't use a setting tape, but instead used
a glazing compound, as it took two days with
a small screwdriver to dig the old "stuff?" out.
Since the glass shops around here want a
minimum of $200 just to set the panes, I'd like
to attempt to do this on my own, but not knowing
the tolerances involved with setting tape, I'd be
inclined to use what the old schoolers did.
Your thoughts?

 

[69L48Z27]

I did glass for a living back in the late 90’s. I will say I never did anything like that. Closest thing was a tri-5 Chevy, I cut plate laminate.

Based on what I do know of auto glass, I think you’re on the right track. The setting tape comes in various thickness. Just need to find the ‘snug’ one. The other thing your looking for is bedding or glazing compound. The auto glass industry never used that when I was around. They wanted to make mess and urethane everything together.

Here’s what I would do, this depends on the frame and how snug it is to the glass. If there’s a gap from the front and rear of the glass to the frame then I would use the tape. If the frame is tight or snug to the glass I would use compound.

Hope that helps.

 

[1967coronet]

Hey all,
I'm getting close to registering my "specialty'
built truck. I'm going to attempt to install the
windshield glass in a pre-war (1940) two piece
windshield frame comprised of a upper and
lower section of frame with a divider in the
center. The frame is mounted to the truck via
two hinges at the top, with a center mounted
crank mounted at the bottom that allows the
windshield frame to tilt outward. There is a gasket
installed around the outside perimeter of of the
frame, but unlike modern times, it's not to hold
the frame in place, but only acts as a seal.
Modern day glass shops use a setting tape to
secure the pane in the frame. I'm pretty sure
OEM didn't use a setting tape, but instead used
a glazing compound, as it took two days with
a small screwdriver to dig the old "stuff?" out.
Since the glass shops around here want a
minimum of $200 just to set the panes, I'd like
to attempt to do this on my own, but not knowing
the tolerances involved with setting tape, I'd be
inclined to use what the old schoolers did.
Your thoughts?
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IH - KB 1 or 2 ? If not it is very simular.
I would checkout some forum that deals with the old IH trucks and search out glass install threads.

 

[1STMP]

IH - KB 1 or 2 ? If not it is very simular.
I would checkout some forum that deals with the old IH trucks and search out glass install threads.

Thanks for your suggestion. I've been all over
most of the old truck websites, and what they're
doing is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. (Urethane)
My posting here is to tap the knowledge of maybe
someone who has worked in the glass setting
business and has set glass as the 'old timers'
did it using factory techniques. They didn't use
urethane or setting tapes in 1940. By the way,
the truck I'm referencing is a Plymouth.

 

[1967coronet]

Thanks for your suggestion. I've been all over
most of the old truck websites, and what they're
doing is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. (Urethane)
My posting here is to tap the knowledge of maybe
someone who has worked in the glass setting
business and has set glass as the 'old timers'
did it using factory techniques. They didn't use
urethane or setting tapes in 1940. By the way,
the truck I'm referencing is a Plymouth.

Plymouth , ok nice project. I've been around a few old KBs but no plymouths.
Your description and the pic had me guessing IH.
Not really sure what would have been used for setting the glass outside of gasket rubbers and sealer.
I know that's not what your looking for. I will do some more checking this week.

 

[1STMP]

Plymouth , ok nice project. I've been around a few old KBs but no plymouths.
Your description and the pic had me guessing IH.
Not really sure what would have been used for setting the glass outside of gasket rubbers and sealer.
I know that's not what your looking for. I will do some more checking this week.

Thanks for your efforts.

 

[1967coronet]

Nice truck. Not sure if this is similar to what you need,
At our shop we use a chalking tube of regular white seam sealer that is water proof and sets up firm ?
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[1STMP]

That is probably precisely what I'm looking for.
I'll visit our local carquest. I can run a bead
on the channel section of the center divider as
a test. I've a friend with the same year Dodge
truck, and he's very unhappy that he used
urethane. To replace a broken pane took him
a week of digging out small pieces of glass
from the channel of the frame.
Thanks!

 

[MoparLeo]

You can buy someone else's experience for less than it will cost you for yours...For a one time, complicated job that I never want to do again.
I would pay someone who does this for a living as they have the equipment, supplies, experience and can warranty the work.
The motto in our shop was " Do what you do...Don't do what you don't do". Kept us out of trouble trying to fix things we didn't really know how to do.

 

[1STMP]

MoparLeo
Appreciate your concern, but this isn't really a
case of not knowing what to do. I do know, and
have the tools to accomplish the task. I was
merely asking about a glazing compound that
comes close to what Mopar may have used
in 1940. Assembly of this frame is straightforward
and simple given the right materials.

 

[1STMP]

Reviving an old one...
Got the glass in the windshield frame. No
problems other than it took quite a bit of
force and the use of a rubber mallot.
After talking to the glass guy at our local
hot rod builders shop, he suggested using
the bedding tape. It worked well, and the
glass fit tight in the frame.