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This guy HAS to GO!

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We really don't have much of a political nature on here (which may or may not be a good thing) but I was floored to see this off of FOX News

Our Lord and Master has essentially given parts of Arizona to the Mexican drug cartels, and apparently has no plans to stop it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPrl4P9AcrQ&feature=player_embedded
 
Though I'm no fan of Obama,it's Fox News' policy to blame everything on Obama. There are other forces at work here. Look for the $$$,and the direction they take,and a reason may be found for this madness.

Hmmm;wonder how the Minutemen feel about this? Perhaps they'll take action.
 
You know, there's a lot of other countries that would simply shoot people sneaking over their borders. Here we have a situation where armed insurgents are crossing our borders, killing our citizens and imposing their values upon our society. Could someone look up the definition of war?

(And no, I don't mean everyone coming over the border is a criminal, but I know people who enter this country legally. There is a process.)
 
I was thinking today... much of that area is uninhabited, and desert like. It would make a wonderful live fire/impact area for training our troops for action in Afghanistan/Iraq. We could put up signs in numerous languages warning that live ammunition is being used, artillery and and bombs are subject to explode at any time, and give them the same warning we are giving American citizens. They could then proceed at their own risk.
 
I was thinking today... much of that area is uninhabited, and desert like. It would make a wonderful live fire/impact area for training our troops for action in Afghanistan/Iraq. We could put up signs in numerous languages warning that live ammunition is being used, artillery and and bombs are subject to explode at any time, and give them the same warning we are giving American citizens. They could then proceed at their own risk.

LOL I love that plan!

This country was built by immigrants, but they were here to better their lives and in the process, make the country "The greatest country in the world" IMO. Don't get me wrong, I like other countries just fine, I'm mostly Scottish and Swedish so Europe is fine by me, but there is a LOT of corruption and chaos coming up from our southern neighbors and it needs to be stopped like YESTERDAY. I for one don't like the fact that I work my butt off, can hardly pay for my medical bills and college not to mention my CARS but I make too much for assistance and people come up that aren't even a citizen of this country and get free schooling and medical on top of other "perks" of being here and it comes from our taxes. People can wave whatever flag they want but when they tell me I can't wave my own flag in my own country or kids can't wear an American flag shirt to school on the fifth of May because it offends someone??? Now there's a problem. >:[

OK I'm done. =)
 
I was thinking today... much of that area is uninhabited, and desert like. It would make a wonderful live fire/impact area for training our troops for action in Afghanistan/Iraq. We could put up signs in numerous languages warning that live ammunition is being used, artillery and and bombs are subject to explode at any time, and give them the same warning we are giving American citizens. They could then proceed at their own risk.

Your great idea was acted upon many many years ago. There is a HUGE Air Force gunnery range across much of the desert of Arizona. In fact many of the illegals that enter AZ. have to cross some of that area.The signs warning of this that i have seen are in english only.
 
Well our own goverment condones illegals by listing menus in spanish around all the Mexico border states. Why you might ask,,, well the answer is obvious!!! The illegals cant read or write English!!!! I remember the days of Citizenship tests that required you to read, write and speak English!!!!! What the hell is wrong with this picture???
I have NOTHING against other nationalities, and I actualy enjoy learning of other cultures from other nationels, but I dont believe people should come to this great nation and demand "MY" rights as there own and then hide behind imunnities from our government based on there true nationel!
By the way,,, how many times have you dialed a phone number and have been asked to press 1 for English??? UUUUUGGGG this is rediculous!!!!!!
 
Your great idea was acted upon many many years ago. There is a HUGE Air Force gunnery range across much of the desert of Arizona. In fact many of the illegals that enter AZ. have to cross some of that area.The signs warning of this that i have seen are in english only.


Can we extend that range west to the ocean and east to Texas?:yes:

Oh;and keep the signs just like they are. Budget cuts won't allow the purchase of new ones either...
 
I know we have Ft Bliss, Ft Huachuca and Holloman AFB/White Sands Missle Range all in that area as well as the Marine/Navy activity around San Diego. Shouldn't be too much more problem to keep extending it :) .

I agree with Wookie, I hav eno problem with legal immigration, been on several continents and numerous countries. My problem comes with illegals. If we only have an allocation for 1200 Mexican immigrants a year, then that needs to be adjusted to allow more legal, if Congress says we HAVE to have the illegals that come each year. But if that number is adjusted upwards, then illegal immigration MUST stop. Perhaps the illegals coming are the main reason the legal allocation is so small.

On the same vein, if someone is found to be hiring illegals, they should be fined say 10 times the annual salary of one of their legal employees for each illegal working, and second offense becomes 20 time with 6 mo in jail. Exemptions for people who have no way of checking citizenship, or helping someone who is obviously hungry by providing one day work in exchange for food or a nominal amount. Migrant/Guest workers do need a program of temporary employment with tracking, and after a couple or so years of employment as a migrant, they move to the front of the line for citizenship, if they desire.
 
Hello guys, first time Ive posted on here. Im not saying people shouldnt be upset at illegal immigration, cause we do, but the real problem is NOT the people crossing the boarders, its the corupt institutions that started this, Farmers needed cheap labor, so they higher illegals for low pay, no benefits, and no over time. So the word spreads and more enter this country, then there is a war or some civil uprising that benefits our government so we allow refugee's in which then allows them to bring over more illegals. Its like someone said earlier, follow the money. Some where there is a fat cat sitting in an office smoking illegal Cuban cigars and lighting them with $100 bills, laughing his *** off cause he's getting richer by the hour. and its costing him pennies to higher these illegals as compared to what a US citizen would demand for doing the job. So who should we really be mad at???? Some one who's trying to make a better life for them selves or the fat cat thats waveing the carrots? And let me just say talking about putting up walls, making people carry documents to prove they are real citizens.... a couple of things there, first we all would have to have that and guess where our government would find another tax revenue base, just like re-newwing your tags on our cars, plus does anyone remember the Berlin wall? it did NOT stop people from crossing, no matter how many were killed, when things are so bad that the risk out ways the chances of staying where you are at, well we all would take the risk. I agree that there is a big problem with imagration but its NOT the immagrants that are the problem its the system, I should know, my wife is an immagration attorny, when she has to file paper work with the department of homeland security and part of the packet is a set of instruction that she has to ask for from them to put in the packet to send back to them to tell them how to do their job? Now if you took your car to a mechanic, and had to diagnose the problem with your own car and then tell the mechanic how to fix your own car and on top pay that mechanic $$$'s per hour..... What would you call that... I call it !@#$ up myself. my piont being that the news and poloticians have done such a great job of swaying the blame of where it should be to another. They can continue to keep getting their cut from the fat cats of the world all the while telling us that they are working for us. You want things to change elect ALL new in our government from top to bottom. Then you'll see a change but as long as people keep believing the bull put out on the radio and television, our country is heading for real trouble. My appologies to anyone I may have offended, it was not my intentions, it just happens to be a subject that I have been associated with on a personel level because of what my wife does, and I get to see the mess she has to do to help try and get people here leagally. have a good one and lets get back to car talk. lol
 
OK Trebor,

I would hope you didn't join this forum to try to spark some kind of political debate. It would be cool if you could post some pics of your car/s as well. And welcome since this is your first post. I see that you are in Washington(D.C. or state I'm not sure), I'm in Southern California. I see the "problem" a little differently from you. Unfortunately, I am educated enough to not believe the news and all of the politicians. Life would be so much more enjoyable if that were not so " ignorance is bliss" right??? So all I have left to go by is what I experience in day to day life. I have witnessed things that are a direct effect of illegal immigration and the many problems associated with it. Again, do not misinterpret what I am writing, I believe in LEGAL immigration. When you have a country ( Mexico)that cannot figure out how to run itself and then try to bail out to "greener pastures", the people will do whatever they need to get the money. Guess what? I'm sure that when they kidnap people's children for ransom or kill them and stuff their bodies with drugs, that nobody is blaming the parents for having children. No legitimate farmer is responsible for that either. When an illegal immigrant crashes into someone else on the freeway and the driver vanishes because they don't have any insurance or documentation so the other driver has to pick up the tab, is it the fault of the legal driver for being in the wrong place at the wrong time? If you park your car in your driveway and it's get stolen, is it your fault for parking it there? Your analogy of blaming farmers for creating jobs is kind of ridiculous. It's the illegal immigrants that will underbid the jobs so that no legal citizen can survive on the wages because they have to pay the taxes that help provide free healthcare and schooling to the illegal children. Oh and the documentation topic... WE DO HAVE TO CARRY ID. It's called a DRIVER'S LICENSE or SOCIAL SECURITY CARD or STATE ID or FEDERAL ID. I am not disagreeing that the politics have to change but the people are responsible for their OWN actions. If I get out of medical school and have to fix people for free because they didn't want to follow the laws of this country I will be a little angry. :mad: You are right and people do need to vote for " CHANGE" that will make the country better and not bow down to other countries and kiss their butts while they cripple our own country.

OK Now I'm really done. :)
 
Seems lots of people voted for "change" the last time we had an election.

and look what it got us...........
 
I,m tired of the **** and ready to go ballistic and let the bodies fall where they may.I,m not the type of person to continually poke unless youre ready for the consequences..Ever see the old show rat patrol. I,m ready to take out the rats.
 
Seems lots of people voted for "change" the last time we had an election.

and look what it got us...........

Yeah you are right... I didn't vote for that change but it sure is changing my life in a way I don't want. :(


Oh and 67 B-body, nice plane... I fly too, actually I work for a manufacturer that just won the XFC.
 
Pssst, Trebor, this thing has spell check....
Immigration has always been a hot topic in our country.
There are no fast or quick answers, to be sure. It seems that these days though, folks up and move here to find a better life, but they don't adopt the basic ideas that made this country great. They come here and bring their entire way of life with them. I am not talking about culture or heritage. I am talking about the habits, patterns and social duress that they supposedly are escaping. I am not even going to share my love for folks who come here and then protest in the streets about what is going on in "their home country". Or even better, the terrible things OUR country is doing in their country of origin.

I still say that a frag grenade has use in todays society......

(and I apologize, my spell check is acting up.....)
 
I,m tired of the **** and ready to go ballistic and let the bodies fall where they may.I,m not the type of person to continually poke unless youre ready for the consequences..Ever see the old show rat patrol. I,m ready to take out the rats.

Dude, I loved that show. Of course, I've seen it on tv a few times lately and think that I was an impressionable youth.........
 
Pssst, Trebor, this thing has spell check....
Immigration has always been a hot topic in our country.
There are no fast or quick answers, to be sure. It seems that these days though, folks up and move here to find a better life, but they don't adopt the basic ideas that made this country great. They come here and bring their entire way of life with them. I am not talking about culture or heritage. I am talking about the habits, patterns and social duress that they supposedly are escaping. I am not even going to share my love for folks who come here and then protest in the streets about what is going on in "their home country". Or even better, the terrible things OUR country is doing in their country of origin.

I still say that a frag grenade has use in todays society......

Well stated! You mean like bring their way of life as in... leaving waded up used toilet peper next to the toilet in the stalls at my work??? I still haven't been able to figure that one out. HR won't even do anything about it. :confused:
 
I saw this video the other day and I couldn't believe it. I'd like to think the area is closed off to Americans because the military is planning some major action but not likely in this day and age. 50 yrs ago no problem! Of course we woldn't have to worry about this 50 yrs ago. I'll agree that it takes two to tango so the desire of the corporations to have cheap labor brings the illegals willing to do work for cheap. It's not a new problem.

Yeah, this alleged illegal in the White House is a disaster in a way that hasn't been seen in a long time. Have you heard about the sugar / sugar / shaft rule? Wall St. gets sugar because Obama needs the money and nothing will be done to change the way Wall St. makes money - even though he says so. Much of the welfare crowd gets sugar because he needs the votes. He will feed them and drive them to the voting booths then deposit them back in front of the TV set - oh, and did I mention that they vote?? Now the people who work and like to produce get the shaft and will end up paying more taxes to fill the void. The demise of our lifestyle is a combination of corporate greed and total control of the people by the radical left wing socialists/fascists/Communists. In one year the Gov't has swallowed up a huge car and insurance company not to mention the bad housing debt they took on, and guess what, the car company is making money again. Amazing. I heard it said that the gov't doesn't get one penny without taking it from someone else first. But I must disagree. The gov't is now in the business of doing business.
 
Did anyone even HEAR that a US Border agent was shot to death last month by illegal immigrants? The party line is it was smugglers. But I guess only them, and the DEAD U.S. BORDER AGENT KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!! Any other country would go APESH$T over this! Here, barely a blurb in the news. Sad
 
I heard about it, but our Lord and Master didn't seem to bothered by the event. G.W. would have been all over it I think
 
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