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More proof Toyota's are junk

egrand1508

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Few things get under my skin more than people blindlessly telling me how much better Japaneese cars are than today's American cars. What I've seen and what I've read is that Toyota especially has made some real junk the last several years.

Here is the latest proof with an article on Toyotoa paying the biggest fine ever to the US govt over recall issues.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...-recall?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p



Some quotes from the article bear repeating:

"It's the fourth time since 2010 that Toyota has paid the maximum allowable fine for delaying recalls"



"So far this year, Toyota leads all automakers in the United States with 5.3 million vehicles recalled in 13 campaigns. That's about 2 million more than Honda Motor Co., which has the second-highest number."


"Internal documents obtained by Congress show Toyota repeatedly bragged about saving more than $100 million by not conducting a more expensive recall."

 
I agree. Toyota has been faultering for years. Know where they got it from? The union run American auto industry. I worked for Toyota almost 8 years. While GM was making vehicles with interiors that fell apart and engines that blew head gaskets, Toyota made quality vehicles with steel cranks, forged rods, great transmissions and solid interiors. They've learned well in recent years from the Americans how to screw the public.
 
My son drives an older honda and i've been telling him for years that he needs to buy a real car.
 
I'm on the fence with this one...
Do you think the Gvt was (is) biased on this one w/ GM being owned by the Obama admin?
I have 2 Touota trucks.
One a 1988 4X4 pick up. CANT KILL IT...(I tried)
The other: a 2004 Tundra Limited 4X4 X-tra cab 4-door.
Rides real nice, no problems.
yet, one of my team memvers JUST bought a new Camaro. The passenger side rear window motor is in-op.
It's is a 3 week old car!
 
we have a 2009 pontiac g6 gt with 45,*** miles (yes this car is virtually brand new by todays "standards") exhaust manifold has blown out the gasket,(it sounds like it has a fart can under the drivers seat) both headlight housings have shaken the bulbs out , the headlight wiring has corroded to the point i had to replace the sockets and wiring. the steering coupler has been recalled and fixed but still rattles and gets hung up, the drivers side CV makes noise. the interior rattles. the remote start quit working , the horn stopped working all together. it eats gas like no tomarrow. it gets regular dealer oil changes and maintenance every 3,000 miles like clockwork but the fresh oil smells like burnt onions.it uses oil, it keeps burning out the license plate bulbs. it was aligned 12,000 miles ago, but keeps eating tires. this car is babied and extremely well taken care of... its ridiculous, i would take a toyota any day over that "american" pile of ****. LOL
 
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Theres a sucker born every minute, remember, we americans taut them how to do it! Sad but true, we are going down the toilet, per government rule, and we all stand by a watch, its not going to get better!
 
Theres a sucker born every minute, remember, we americans taut them how to do it! Sad but true, we are going down the toilet, per government rule, and we all stand by a watch, its not going to get better!

And they are built HERE in America BY Americans.
(Oops, I forgot, Toyota of America is on the American Stock Exchange)
Let's not forget the Chrysler workers getting DRUNK and STONED on lunch time and they CAN NOT be fired.
Yeah, I want them building my car
LOL
 
I am an American from the United States and am very proud of it. I will only buy cars that are from American owned companies. Not from companies based in other countries but assembled here. I don't care how great some folks think they are, those rice burners are not for me. I refuse to ride in one of those out of respect for my Grandfather and all the other Americans that forfeited their lives in a brutal war that has made us a free country to live in and raise our children in. If American workers are not good enough to build me a Chrysler, Ford, or a G.M. automobile then they surely are not capable of building me a quality yota either.

For all you that are going to be offended by these comments I will say to you my 40 year old GTX was built in Canada and is still with us. Show me what your great rice burner looks like when it is 40 years old. I doubt you can find any parts for that clunker. If i ever go to Japan I will have to ride in that junk then, but because of a lot of dead service men and women I don't have to in America. I say THANKS to all the defenders of my rights.

I have many Mopars, Fords, and G.M. cars and trucks but you will not find any yangs in my yard.

If you are offended I am sorry, but that is my opinion. When possible BUY AMERICAN !!!
 
When I met my wife back 7-8 years ago, her whole family had Toyota's. Coming from a family that would rather walk 1000 miles vs. driving a foreign car, it was a bit of a clash to say the least. I chum around quite a bit with her brother and after many of trips through the forest, water and mud with my truck, he finally saw the light. My truck would continue to get beaten, beaten, beaten again and take it every bit of it like a truck should..His kept falling apart, once leaving us stranded 20 miles from any civilization. His truck is long gone...now drives a truck made with a sticker that say's "built in flint Michigan".

The father in law got a recall letter from toyota last year for his 2004 Tacoma. It was about the frame rails rotting out. He's not mechanically inclined so I went over there with an inspection mirror and flashlight and we started pulling splash shields. Found 4 through wall holes in his frame. One was almost 6 inches long. I told him don't drive it. It wasn't safe. Being stubborn he brought it to Toyaota. They said don't drive it, it wasn't safe..lol The vehicle was condemned and they gave him 150% blue book and credit toward another Toyota. I asked him why or why would buy another...but he did. Bought a highlander. 8 recalls later, 2 busted valves, cracked exhaust manifold, steering box leaks and several other trips to Toyota, he's asking himself the same question. The wifes sister just replaced her Rav4 with a Jeep Cherokee, after a second transmission shelled out on her in the middle of BFE South Dakota.

Last month I was pleased as pie to see the wife's 2004 Camry leave my garage finally. I called it the burn barrel because it was a traveling plume of smoke. This car was meticulously maintained and never missed an oil change. 88,000 miles and it was literally falling apart. Unfortunately I got the lovely pleasure of changing out the transaxle, water pump, heater control unit, 2 power window motors, AC Compressor and a multitude of others odds and ends. Even got a new computer in it courtesy of Toyota and a couple grand. Guy at Toyota parts chuckled when I came in for the second time for a power window motor. "Yeah, these go bad so often, their almost a consumable like the brake pads now a days..hahaha". Welllllllll, that's funny, my 1968 Dodge Coronet has the original power window motors in it. Hmmmm Guess they weren't considered a consumables back then.

So...wife wanted something to handle the snow...Drove a Durango, Jeep Cherokee, Explorer, Traverse, Cadillac SRX4 and a Toyota 4Runner (to keep her happy). I'm glad she drove the 4 runner. By the time we hoped out of the vehicle she couldn't even believe for herself how repulsed she was by the crappy ride, price, warranty, power and amenities. I liked the power of the durango, but she wasn't digging the size, more truck like handling or the uncomfortable seats (agree with her on that.) In the end it came down to comparing apples and oranges. By far, the Cadillac was the best all around. The handling and braking is unbelievable. Power is great and comfort/amenities..well, it's a Caddy. Had to buy one slightly used to afford, but that's what's in our garage now...Sorry Mopar gods.

So...after my novel..lol I have to definitely have to agree with egrand. I believe Toyota once built a quality vehicle, but that legacy has ended. There motto is quantity now and they even admitted it. All cars/brands have issues, but to the folks putting Toyota on a pedestal are living off a name and not the product anymore. Rant over!
 
For all you that are going to be offended by these comments I will say to you my 40 year old GTX was built in Canada and is still with us. Show me what your great rice burner looks like when it is 40 years old. I doubt you can find any parts for that clunker. If i ever go to Japan I will have to ride in that junk then, but because of a lot of dead service men and women I don't have to in America. I say THANKS to all the defenders of my rights.

i daily drive my 40 year old duster and i wouldnt have it any other way. but theres not one thing i cant fix, repair or replace myself. when it comes to new cars , i dont have much of a clue and have to rely on a dealer to take care of it. that pontiac is built just as shitty as my duster was 40 years ago.
 
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About ten year ago, the guy I was working for went out and bought two brand new Toyota Tacoma pickups to use as work trucks. One of them was ok but after only a few hundred miles the other one started making engine noises. It became much worse in a very short time. He took the truck back to the dealer and they had it for over two weeks. The service manager said that he decided to replace the original 4 banger that was in it because it had been assembled with the pistons the wrong way. Has anyone else heard of this problem with Toyotas? It's hard to imagine how it's even possible that this engine came down the line this way. Lesson learned as far as he is concerned. I wouldn't buy one anyway.
 
I am an American from the United States and am very proud of it. I will only buy cars that are from American owned companies. Not from companies based in other countries but assembled here. I don't care how great some folks think they are, those rice burners are not for me. I refuse to ride in one of those out of respect for my Grandfather and all the other Americans that forfeited their lives in a brutal war that has made us a free country to live in and raise our children in. If American workers are not good enough to build me a Chrysler, Ford, or a G.M. automobile then they surely are not capable of building me a quality yota either.

For all you that are going to be offended by these comments I will say to you my 40 year old GTX was built in Canada and is still with us. Show me what your great rice burner looks like when it is 40 years old. I doubt you can find any parts for that clunker. If i ever go to Japan I will have to ride in that junk then, but because of a lot of dead service men and women I don't have to in America. I say THANKS to all the defenders of my rights.

I have many Mopars, Fords, and G.M. cars and trucks but you will not find any yangs in my yard.

If you are offended I am sorry, but that is my opinion. When possible BUY AMERICAN !!!

trimmer:
How do I know you are a REAL American from the United States?
HOW dO I KNOW???

LOL

God Bless!
 
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2001 Toyota Highlander, 249,000 km or 155,000 miles. Replaced nothing but brakes, tires, battery, timing belt and bulbs.
2000 Dodge Ram 24V cummins, 237,000 km, or 147,000 miles, injector pump, fuel lift pump, ball joints 3 times, track bar, pitman arm, front axle u joints twice, both rear axle seals, turbo boost sensor. blah blah blah
I could tell you about my buddy's chevy pick up and anothers ford, but time doesn't permit it. gotta leave for work in an hour
I sense politics behind this anti toyota rant. I thought this was a B Body forum
 
I have had good luck out of every toyota i've owned, my first car was a 74 corolla, great car...i have had 3 supras over the years, great running cars and fun to drive too...I've also had very good luck out of nissan products....On the american side, best luck out of GM products, my current daily driver is a 94 Z71...worst luck out of ford products..Chrysler products are in the middle, not counting my RR of course, as this is my first classic car...Chrysler definitely doesn't build them like that anymore...
 
I have driven Tundras since 2006. I am very happy with the Toyota trucks I have owned. I have a 2010 Crew Max now and absolutely LOVE it.

I will always be a die hard fan of the 60-70's Mopars, but have no loyalty in the new vehicle market. Toyota has treated me awesome the past 6 years. I will continue to drive their trucks as long as they remain as reliable and dependable as they have been for me. The day that ceases to exist I will search for a new brand, for now though I cannot complain about Toyota reliability or service. Very satisfied with their product.
 
My 1988 Toyota pick-up, 4X4 w/ 255,000 plus miles is still kicking.
I towed a full size Chebby van on a trailer UP the Cajon Pass (I-15) to Edwards AFB in 2000.
She is still running...
I call her: "Ol Lucky"

From a joke years ago:
•Has 3 legs
•Blind in left eye
•Missing right ear
•Tail broken
•Accidentally neutered…
Answers to the name “Lucky”.

I inherited this truck....
Dents every whers, looks terrible...etc etc etc...
 
Hey Super-Bee_Ski, i reckon the best way would be to come knock on my door and see if you ain't greeted by a former Marine with still a red neck named Bill that says to you .....

"Hey !, Welcome to my home here in Alabama,"

Would that convince you? If so come see me, but please park your truck out on the road as i do not want my cars to get a virus. LOL just joking you can come up my driveway, but after you leave if one of my rides wont start, I'm gonna blame you. LOL!!!
 
I have driven Tundras since 2006. I am very happy with the Toyota trucks I have owned. I have a 2010 Crew Max now and absolutely LOVE it.

I will always be a die hard fan of the 60-70's Mopars, but have no loyalty in the new vehicle market. Toyota has treated me awesome the past 6 years. I will continue to drive their trucks as long as they remain as reliable and dependable as they have been for me. The day that ceases to exist I will search for a new brand, for now though I cannot complain about Toyota reliability or service. Very satisfied with their product.

Yup, gotta agree with Wookie and others on this one, except my brand is Honda. My '74 Charger is the only Mopar I've ever owned, and it's awesome. But I have beaten the hell outta Hondas for 24 years, and I've never had one crap out on me.

My first Honda was an '89 CRX, and I drove the hell outta it, idiot teenager style for 8 years. The master brake cylinder did leak, but Honda replaced it for free. Then I had a '94 Toyota Celica, then a '98 Toyota Solara. The Toyotas were both good cars, but the Hondas have been a bit more sturdy and I just like Honda Design and interiors a bit better. Had a Honda CB1000 motorcycle, an Acura RSX. The RSX had the most amazingly awesome stick transmission, damn that car was fun to drive.

And now? I drive the truck that everyone loves to hate... the Honda Ridgeline. I get a lot of crap about it from my Toyota and American truck friends, but when they ride in it and see the trunk that holds ice and beer under the bed... they come around.

Hate to say it, but I too have no loyalty to American makes in the current market. American makes source parts and assemble in Canada, Mexico, etc... and Japanese makes build cars here as well as overseas, so I just don't think the connection to jobs is what it used to be.

And I have a friend who owns a late 60's Datsun Roadster, looks very similar to the condition of the car below... so they can hold up.

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Nice car!
Omg!

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Hey Super-Bee_Ski, i reckon the best way would be to come knock on my door and see if you ain't greeted by a former Marine with still a red neck named Bill that says to you .....

"Hey !, Welcome to my home here in Alabama,"

Would that convince you? If so come see me, but please park your truck out on the road as i do not want my cars to get a virus. LOL just joking you can come up my driveway, but after you leave if one of my rides wont start, I'm gonna blame you. LOL!!!

Believe me...if i could, I be there tomorrow w/ you!
A Marine and a 20 yr A.F Vet, and now another 12 yrs Flt Test Civiee...I'm sure we'd get into a little trouble.
Now, as you know, I'm soft on the south. Good people, gorgeous gals...good fishing, Big Gators...for those DRUNK nights when ya really wanna do something different..."Lake Lizards"
I may not want to come back to the DRY Desert of Edwards AFB.
BTW: You like Beer? And Hemis?
And, I'd drive an American car.
 
Buy AMERICAN to help Americans!

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