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For the Love for my Father, My 69 GTX Restoration

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Gorgeous! It's amazing what a little bit of trim will do for a freshly painted car, especially a black one
Thanks Chris!

No kidding something so little made a HUGE difference...I did more staring than working, lol....

Btw I will be looking for your clips tonight and I am leaving for FL tomorrow afternoon and back on next tuesday....Short needed break but no car action for a bit:BangHead:
 
Thanks Chris!

No kidding something so little made a HUGE difference...I did more staring than working, lol....

Btw I will be looking for your clips tonight and I am leaving for FL tomorrow afternoon and back on next tuesday....Short needed break but no car action for a bit:BangHead:

Actually, I ended up getting my clips last night from a couple of members on here, so I was going to message you to let you know that you don't have to go digging around your stash. Id still like to get the contact info of your sources that you were telling me about because I'm sure there will be more items that I will be looking for before this resto is over!
 
Rear Brake Drums 11 x 2.5 HD

This is one of the few original parts that were long gone. Probably due to replacement sometime in its life. What was on the car when it was acquired was a mixed matched factory set. Dates were late 69 and early 71 and both did not have much meat left either. So to pass of as a near new part was impossible and one had pitting as well. I have been actively searching for an NOS set(Good luck) or a very nice used set with the correct markings and dates, good luck again, lol....Until then I chose to leave off the incorrect originals and got a new set from Oreillys. They are fairly close to the look of the originals but lots of little incorrect details. I will pay big bones for a correct set! Either NOS or super nice originals that mimic NOS. Date range is prior to 10/68 and no earlier than 7/68. They can be mixed matched dates...
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I think I have a nice set off of a 68 Roadrunner, I'll look.
 
I'll check but I kept them because they were in such good shape, I'll try to remember to check tonight and get pics.
 
Simply amazing Justin, its an honor just to see the level of detail in your passion for your dad and his car!
I'm sure he's watching every nut, bolt and clip go on with pride in his sons work!
 
Simply amazing Justin, its an honor just to see the level of detail in your passion for your dad and his car!
I'm sure he's watching every nut, bolt and clip go on with pride in his sons work!
Thanks Mike:thumbsup:
 
Simply amazing Justin, its an honor just to see the level of detail in your passion for your dad and his car!
I'm sure he's watching every nut, bolt and clip go on with pride in his sons work!

Agreed wholeheartedly. I have been watching this, and honestly, I can't believe the time and dedication involved in such a task. Each little piece that will never be seen matters and parts that are supposed to be exact repops having subtle differences. This is a very educational thread for me and many others. I was thinking that I have the right brake drums on my 69 runner, as I'm sure they are original, but seeing how many other little things can be so different, I'm not sure they are! Thanx for sharing all this info and keeping many of us entertained. I love threads like this while I'm away at work. It helps keep the sanity!
 
Trim looks nice, Justin. Ironically, in some of your pictures, the trim has a goldish color to it which still would look cool. I know it's the lighting but still.
 
Body side moulding

So here we are at a point on this car I really did not want to tackle. One I am dealing with a very expensive paint job. Two I have never done this before and three the body shop couldn't figure out how to do this. In the body shops defense and after talking to several folks the hardware kit I originally had was not correct, even though it was supposed to be. Word to the wise here is the link to the CORRECT kit below.

http://www.herbsparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=192-69TC&cat=661

Dan aka DieselDazzle Special thanks to him for putting me on the appropriate patch to figure out how to do this correctly. I have asked everyone under the sun and no one could remember or knew how to. So I figured out how to accomplish this daunting task.

In the kit they give you enough of the plastic clips and pins for all the holes. When I removed the trim from the GTX originally I had only two metal stud clips and acorns which were in the last rear hole in the door. I decided to put two on the rear trim behind the door in the wheel opening areas and two more on the ends by the rear bumper. Also, two went in the second hole from the front of the door.(aided in installing the longest piece of trim by yourself) Those where the only holes that did not have remnants of clips and the old trim in those areas was glued on back in the day by a previous owner. The two original clips and acorns are clearly different than the new ones. The originals go into the rear of the door which is in the door latch area. I decided to paint them black to match(they were black when removed) and are smaller in height. The taller news ones will hit the frame. No one offers the original type fasteners.

First took my small file set and filed out each hole to remove any paint build up. Then I took some touch up paint to each hole and allowed it to dry. Once dried then I installed all the clips. On the backside it has four tangs. I placed there tangs in the hole and with a putty knife with tape around it(to protect the paint) and carefully push the fourth tab in from the top. BTW I tried the finger nail thing and trust me the putty knife trick is quicker and your fingers will thank you. The dry fit the trim to see if any adjustments need to be made and check the fitment of the clips on the trim itself. I had to trim some places so the trim would snap over the clips, You DO NOT want to find this out after the fact...Check, recheck everything, every piece.

Once all clips are in now here comes the dangerous part. THE PINS. Each pin has a slotted head and are slightly oval to key in one way in the clip. You cannot push these in by hand. I used gibbs lube(what I had handy) and with a small Q tip I lubed the clips and the pins. Then I made a protecter pad of tape(several layers) about 6 to be exact. So you have to use a flat head screwdriver and line it up with the slot and force the pin until you feel it lock. Reason why I had a "safety pad" of tape was to protect the paint due to slippage of the screwdriver. Fortunately that never happened. To give you an idea of the force to push the pins in on the front of the car I had to chock the front dolly unit. So I had the tape above the clip, two fingers on the flat head(piece of paper towel wrapped around the head) and the other hand forcing the clip in. Also, place a small towel over the end of the screwdriver your palm will be happy you did that.

Finally, after all the clips were installed it was time for the trim. I place tape on the topside on the panels and I was not worried about the organisol paint. As Dan related to the cud trim do not get forceful and bang it on like a raped ape, lol. You can damage the trim doing as such. Take a rag and use your palm etc and pop the trim on. Before I forget the clips have a thin plastic extension to guard against the trim slapping the paint. Total time for me was about 16hrs over two days but all went Perfect! Well, all but one piece of trim was not anodized well so it had to make a trip.
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Ohhhh I missed this and I am just now seeing it.... great bit here for us Justin thank you!! Love it! Will help me going forward as well!
 
Agreed wholeheartedly. I have been watching this, and honestly, I can't believe the time and dedication involved in such a task. Each little piece that will never be seen matters and parts that are supposed to be exact repops having subtle differences. This is a very educational thread for me and many others. I was thinking that I have the right brake drums on my 69 runner, as I'm sure they are original, but seeing how many other little things can be so different, I'm not sure they are! Thanx for sharing all this info and keeping many of us entertained. I love threads like this while I'm away at work. It helps keep the sanity!
Gdrill

I really appreciate your input and thank you for your kind words! No stone will be left uncovered per se.

There are very few repro parts that are correct and I will continue to compare as many as I can or have to compare. I never understood why they spend all that money in tooling, license, and marketing and not even get the part close to what it originally was.:BangHead:

What makes FBBO so wonderful are it's members it is unlike any other forum around....That entertainment you refer to is a two way street here. My entertainment is from you guys and maybe some gals(we hope) viewing and commenting on my build. Thanks to you and everyone taking interest in my build...:thumbsup:
 
Trim looks nice, Justin. Ironically, in some of your pictures, the trim has a goldish color to it which still would look cool. I know it's the lighting but still.
Rod, Lol..Love the irony in that! It is those crappy T8 bulbs...
 
Ohhhh I missed this and I am just now seeing it.... great bit here for us Justin thank you!! Love it! Will help me going forward as well!
Dan

You put me in the right direction and I thank you for that! :thumbsup:
 
Trim looks great, I'll be doing mine soon. Thanks for the info!
 
Behind every car and especially a classic car there is sometimes an amazing heart felt story. Those stories and the associations with the owners, families, and friends carry on for a long time and hopefully forever. From good times and tragic events these cars sometimes experience it all with us. When this relates to a classic car it gets attached to a particular make, brand and model. The one in particular of course is a 1969 Plymouth GTX.....

Here is the story on my 1969 Plymouth GTX!

Back in 1967 my father, Mel, whom was stationed at Scott Air Force base also moonlighted at the St Louis Chrysler plant. During his off time he drag raced at the local track with a 64 Sport fury and a 65 Belvedere. This all changed when he had his first encounter with a 67 GTX at the plant. It was Love at first sight. Minutes later he ordered a 67 GTX 440 4spd red with black interior and he had the privilege to walk the car through the line and handpick parts.

It did not take my pops long and this car was beating up the streets and the strip. His good friend was a member of the Golden Commandos with a max wedge monster and had an idea. So one day in 1968 over at his garage and a few brews they decided to put the "Rat Roaster" intake on the GTX. My Dad said when that puppy landed the car squatted about a 1/2 inch..lol... Between the 915 heads and the crossram the GTX was something to be reckoned with. The X spanked a street rival so much the guy showed up with the race version 68 Hemi cuda. Yes, race only but back then no one cared. The cuda saw Gtx's taillights all the way...the guy finally beat my dad once with the cuda.....After that win a week later that guy showed up in a yellow 67 GTX, no kidding.....
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So we are going to jump a lot of years due to the fact that family became more important than racing but the love for the GTX never dissipated. In the early 80's me and my brother were at the age of cars, partying, and ladies. While scrolling through our family album I located some of these pics above. Man, I love every inch of the X so I asked pops whats up with this car? The story above came out of him so freely and naturally and the glee in his eye was priceless. Pops then schooled me on Mopars and the next thing I knew, out back a 30 x 50 shop showed up. He said save your money buy any Mopar you fall in Love with and I will provide the shop, tools, and whatever you need to fix one up. Dad said we will do this together and I will give you all my knowledge and guidance along the way. These are things his father taught him and these are things I want to teach you.

Man I saved every penny, worked after school, weekends. During that time we went to shows, swap meets, collections, you name it we explored that. Saw a ton of cars, people, owners and hundreds of stories. During that time, I fell in love with the 69 Charger and eventually found my 69 Charger....He guided me through the whole restoration from start to finish. The only things we did not do was the plating and machine shop work. While this was going on we eventually ran into someone by the name of Billy Peedins in Micro, NC. He was a well known IHRA drag racing champion and had a mammoth of a Mopar playground. We went down to his place many times and we all became good friends. One day when we went there as we were driving up. My dad said, "look!" Look at what Billy has....It was a black 69 Plymouth GTX, it was love at first sight again. I know, it was not the 67 but that big GTX badge called my dads name.

Next thing I know he walked out with the keys and took it for a test run on a small two lane country road. Dad nailed it, raced shifted it and pulled in to Peedins garage and said Billy, consider this sold! Prior to this he was searching for a 67 GTX. So I asked him, "What about the 67?" Pops with his smirk said, "What about it?" Didn't I tell you to find the Mopar model you Love? Well, I love this one too......This was in 1993.....

Years go by with many car shows, restorations and wonderful Father/son memories occur. Then sometimes life throws a curve ball and unfortunately leads to a tragic end. For over ten years my Dad dealt with Rheumatoid arthritis known as a crippling disease. It is an Autoimmune disease with no cure and strong meds to maintain some peace. My last memory of my pops in the GTX was in 2008. We were leaving a show and I was behind him in my 72 340 4spd sublime Duster. Next thing I knew the light changed and he was gone, Dusted the Duster....I see my Mom having some words as he was getting it but that was no matter. His crippled right hand, had no problem banging those gears! His crippled left ankle had no problem banging the clutch that day! The car pulled in the shop in it's "Declared" spot and never moved since.......

A few months went by and he had severe right sided flank pain. Dad went to the hospital where I was working at and they found that his kidney was the size of a football. They immediately removed the kidney and biopsied the tumor. Our worst fears landed when the results came in and it was renal cell carcinoma. All his treatments and care was guided by Johns Hopkins. Eventually, the cancer(virus) found its way around those treatments. I was in Texas at that time in 2011. He was feeling ill but he went out with the hunt club(they used dogs to run the deer) but he loved, loved hunting....Freezing his butt off and vomiting, he jumped in the truck and drove himself to the hospital. No question, I came home during this time and in less then 30 days January 7, 2012...We lost him, It was total devastation of all of us...like the flick of a light switch....
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The aftermath of this still affects me to the current day. The stress of the loss caused me to have a serious medical problem. Depression set in, gained some weight and the stress of the loss led to several mini strokes. Previously, I was a very fit and athletic guy. Through time and self treatment(yes, self) I got back to my old self but at times I slur some of my words/mumble.

Not a day goes by that I do not think of him or miss him. In the new world I will be with him again....I was privileged to have such a loving father, friend, and teacher....Hey, two sons, two sons college educated, and each married once!

Out of the blue abou two years later. I get a call from Mom and she came out and said, "I want you to come and get the GTX." Your father wanted it to be that way and knew only you could maintain it and maybe restore it! I offered to buy it and that got shut down fast and was told to come get. I did just that! Keep in mind my Dad Loved this car so having this in the garage was bittersweet. Times I would just sit in the garage and stare at it and think of all the memories. None of my other cars were important to me anymore, they became obsolete. The X was like a disease but in a very good way. Eventually, I made the decision to do a full restoration......So word to the wise when it came to this build money was no object, it was an obsession for perfection and I can care less what a GTX is worth.....It is not just a car I am rebuilding here, it is a great story about an Honorable Patriot, Husband, Father and his 69 Plymouth GTX he adored.....

So without further ado...here is my Fathers GTX and the restoration....

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What a great story, I enjoyed reading how you and your dad worked togeather restoring the Charger, and as a 69 GTX owner I loved seeing his 69. I'm so sorry that he passed before his time, it's tough!! I lost my dad, my best friend, when I was only 26, and it's heartbreaking!!
 
What a great story, I enjoyed reading how you and your dad worked togeather restoring the Charger, and as a 69 GTX owner I loved seeing his 69. I'm so sorry that he passed before his time, it's tough!! I lost my dad, my best friend, when I was only 26, and it's heartbreaking!!
Rod

Thankyou for your kind words! I am sorry to hear about your loss as well.

You can relate and understand that time only heals a bit but not a day goes by that a tear or a glassy eye occurs. I appreciate you relaying some of your past.

Justin
 
Not much Gtx action occurring. Currently, on vacation in Florida at my father in laws. Hence, he is my other Dad! A phenomenal gentleman, I am very lucky!
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