bigmanjbmopar
Newb with a view
Officially 5 months now and I sent them letter stating an ultimatum either get the car done by the 2nd week of march or give it back, if work has been done we will settle up with a proper invoice checked by the state for accuracy and you can pull the money owed from the deposit.
State agency dealing with auto body shops has been called and will be paying them a visit soon.
I sent this letter certified mail, after my lawyer said it could be used if worded right as your own estimate since he didn't write me one, spelling out the work to be done the agreed upon amount and a deadline date. I also gave them 10 calendar days to respond and the ultimatum was 3 fold like stated above finish car by date, give it back untouched or if touched settle up and be done all his choice.
It took 7 days just to get to them via the usps not sure why but I started the clock once I saw the it had been signed for and delivered.
6 days later he called me, and finally admitted he hadn't touched the car but did so in such a BS lieing way it was kinda funny, it begins to tell me he had been giving me verbal updates on another road runner he is doing a frame off, and that oh yeah your car has not been touched blah blah, then asked me when I needed it I said by the 2nd week of march like the letter says, he fumbled around with more bullshit and lies blah blah, and started telling me how he had hired a moving company to move his spary booth tomorrow blah blah and I said oh wait you told me you were extending you stay until the end of April? - silence then more bs about his shop floors got done sooner than he thought blah blah.
So I called my credit card company and they are all over it, no limit to disputes and send us all your docs we will immediately refund the money to your account and begin tying to contact the business and in 15 days they do not respond we automatically rule in your favor and it's done, if they do respond we make them send us the signed estimates between the two of you showing what work has been done and since we know he has no actual estimates signed by you we will slap his *** and refund your money sending the amount to collections.
Next, the last part of the conversation is a part I'm sure you guys will give me **** for, but **** it, so I told him look I want my car done and don't want to have to start over somewhere else, what do you think you could get it done now knowing you are moving your whole shop to a different city by the end of this month? he said let me look at my calendar, and came back and said well 2nd week of may I can deliver your car done, I said ok great I'll agree to that on one condition you put it in the form of an estimate with the delivery date shown and I will sign off on it and wait until May to get my car back. he said ok great I'll send it over tonight! cool I said Ill be waiting. this was all after 5 pm by the way.
Next day no estimate, and no surprise either, thought to myself let's be fair as a business owner myself dealing with people after listed business hours and telling them I will send a document to them would be an automatic next business day thing, so I gave him until the close of business the next day to send the estimate over and again no surprise he didn't send it.
All this time I have been communicating with my state investigator and keeping updated on what's been happening, and keeping him in the wings until after this letter was received, now I released him to go find out where my car is by demanding and address and also citing this shop for not giving me an written estimate and also subbing the work out on my car or he was trying to, both offense that he will get fined for.
He is also getting the guys new shop address as well.
Back when I was trying to get him to give up the location of where my car was being kept, I Asked him to take pictures of certain suspension parts as a way of seeing if I could get recent pics of my car so I would at least know he still had access to it or know where it was, here are some of the pics he sent. What really set me off was the RUST has set in on the disks and MC and other parts which mean my poor car which had been garaged since I owned it has been sitting out in the rain all winter!!! **** me I just spent an entire summer cleaning and rustproofing the underside go dam it!! and the MC was brand new! On top of that I had taken some of the paint off myself around the front and rear windows so I could see just how bad it was and also on the quarter panel at the passenger's door so in some spots it was down to bare metal when he took the car last SEPT.!!!
Notice on the suspension pics he is real carefull not to get any of the body in there?? ******* prick knew he hadn't touched my car yet and straight up lied, then tried to cover that lie with another lie to admit he hadn't touched my car what a **** face.
Bottom line is I am trying to get my car back, short of being escorted with cops to his shop just to be told he does not have possession of my car but finally tells me where it is who knows how this is going to play out now but by god dam I will get my car back one way or another very soon.
Now what? get the car back home and strip it myself? by hand or get a media tank from HF and make a mess in my driveway or get a dustless mobil guy to come out or take it to a place that wanted t o use sand and told me my whole interior would get sand in it..wtf?? thinking I am going to tackle it myself unless the dustless guy is reasonable. Ok so car is tripped of paint and filler and there are 1" by 1/2" holes around the rear window, maybe one at the front, weld those up? I only have a 90 amp wire welder will that work? I have been practicing, re doing my stock sway bar brackets got new straps coming from a dude re-poping them in Florida $44 not bad just weld on slip in bushing and tack other side grind to clean and done. what do I do? finding a decent paint guy near me another major challenge, man this sux I'm electrician and don't claim to know the first thing about carpentry that's why I hire woodys or plumbers etc and they hire me, tackling this may be too much for me, fixing welds maybe not so bad, body work getting it straight flat whatever doors aligned?? man tough one. need help guys
Here are some shots while I was exploring the body for filler and rust.
BIG WEIRD CRACK HERE NOT SURE HOW TO FIX IT.
I'll give another update after its all over, so If you never hear from me again it means I 'm in jail for killing this dude and his whole family. look for it in the news
State agency dealing with auto body shops has been called and will be paying them a visit soon.
I sent this letter certified mail, after my lawyer said it could be used if worded right as your own estimate since he didn't write me one, spelling out the work to be done the agreed upon amount and a deadline date. I also gave them 10 calendar days to respond and the ultimatum was 3 fold like stated above finish car by date, give it back untouched or if touched settle up and be done all his choice.
It took 7 days just to get to them via the usps not sure why but I started the clock once I saw the it had been signed for and delivered.
6 days later he called me, and finally admitted he hadn't touched the car but did so in such a BS lieing way it was kinda funny, it begins to tell me he had been giving me verbal updates on another road runner he is doing a frame off, and that oh yeah your car has not been touched blah blah, then asked me when I needed it I said by the 2nd week of march like the letter says, he fumbled around with more bullshit and lies blah blah, and started telling me how he had hired a moving company to move his spary booth tomorrow blah blah and I said oh wait you told me you were extending you stay until the end of April? - silence then more bs about his shop floors got done sooner than he thought blah blah.
So I called my credit card company and they are all over it, no limit to disputes and send us all your docs we will immediately refund the money to your account and begin tying to contact the business and in 15 days they do not respond we automatically rule in your favor and it's done, if they do respond we make them send us the signed estimates between the two of you showing what work has been done and since we know he has no actual estimates signed by you we will slap his *** and refund your money sending the amount to collections.
Next, the last part of the conversation is a part I'm sure you guys will give me **** for, but **** it, so I told him look I want my car done and don't want to have to start over somewhere else, what do you think you could get it done now knowing you are moving your whole shop to a different city by the end of this month? he said let me look at my calendar, and came back and said well 2nd week of may I can deliver your car done, I said ok great I'll agree to that on one condition you put it in the form of an estimate with the delivery date shown and I will sign off on it and wait until May to get my car back. he said ok great I'll send it over tonight! cool I said Ill be waiting. this was all after 5 pm by the way.
Next day no estimate, and no surprise either, thought to myself let's be fair as a business owner myself dealing with people after listed business hours and telling them I will send a document to them would be an automatic next business day thing, so I gave him until the close of business the next day to send the estimate over and again no surprise he didn't send it.
All this time I have been communicating with my state investigator and keeping updated on what's been happening, and keeping him in the wings until after this letter was received, now I released him to go find out where my car is by demanding and address and also citing this shop for not giving me an written estimate and also subbing the work out on my car or he was trying to, both offense that he will get fined for.
He is also getting the guys new shop address as well.
Back when I was trying to get him to give up the location of where my car was being kept, I Asked him to take pictures of certain suspension parts as a way of seeing if I could get recent pics of my car so I would at least know he still had access to it or know where it was, here are some of the pics he sent. What really set me off was the RUST has set in on the disks and MC and other parts which mean my poor car which had been garaged since I owned it has been sitting out in the rain all winter!!! **** me I just spent an entire summer cleaning and rustproofing the underside go dam it!! and the MC was brand new! On top of that I had taken some of the paint off myself around the front and rear windows so I could see just how bad it was and also on the quarter panel at the passenger's door so in some spots it was down to bare metal when he took the car last SEPT.!!!
Notice on the suspension pics he is real carefull not to get any of the body in there?? ******* prick knew he hadn't touched my car yet and straight up lied, then tried to cover that lie with another lie to admit he hadn't touched my car what a **** face.
Bottom line is I am trying to get my car back, short of being escorted with cops to his shop just to be told he does not have possession of my car but finally tells me where it is who knows how this is going to play out now but by god dam I will get my car back one way or another very soon.
Now what? get the car back home and strip it myself? by hand or get a media tank from HF and make a mess in my driveway or get a dustless mobil guy to come out or take it to a place that wanted t o use sand and told me my whole interior would get sand in it..wtf?? thinking I am going to tackle it myself unless the dustless guy is reasonable. Ok so car is tripped of paint and filler and there are 1" by 1/2" holes around the rear window, maybe one at the front, weld those up? I only have a 90 amp wire welder will that work? I have been practicing, re doing my stock sway bar brackets got new straps coming from a dude re-poping them in Florida $44 not bad just weld on slip in bushing and tack other side grind to clean and done. what do I do? finding a decent paint guy near me another major challenge, man this sux I'm electrician and don't claim to know the first thing about carpentry that's why I hire woodys or plumbers etc and they hire me, tackling this may be too much for me, fixing welds maybe not so bad, body work getting it straight flat whatever doors aligned?? man tough one. need help guys
Here are some shots while I was exploring the body for filler and rust.
BIG WEIRD CRACK HERE NOT SURE HOW TO FIX IT.
I'll give another update after its all over, so If you never hear from me again it means I 'm in jail for killing this dude and his whole family. look for it in the news
