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- Dec 23, 2009
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- Rancho Cordova, CA
Any of you former military guys remember PD-680 for cleaning purposes?
That's the stuff they had us use when they were phasing out MEK. Not near as good though.
All I remember was some soapy crap that didn't work well. Deisel was our go to, but you didn't want to get caught with it. As soon as we were done with it, it went into the used oil vat.
Pretty sure I saw right at $75. Maybe it was 75 for 5 gallons? I'll look into it again tomorrow.Where the hell do you live that Varsol is $75 a gallon ?!?!? Its only $18 in Canada !!
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Well... First time I used it I was thinking it's just a simple cleaner until I got it all over my hands, now I try not to touch it.I rather use something that has a bit higher flash point lol
That's what gloves are for!
I use brake cleaner too but it's a bit expensive for using in a cleaning vat and it evaps fast even with the lid down.
I'm very familiar with MEK. Lots of guys would go over to the unit 'sample spigot' at the refinery and fill a bucket to clean their tools with. Most of them are no longer with us. Did you know that the smell in Weldwood contact cement is MEK? Once the MEK flashes off it leaves the glue to do it's job. Not sure if they still use MEK but they did 15 years ago. It was probably the mid 80's before the refinery started making everyone use gloves on stuff like that and then made it to where we couldn't obtain it so easily in the unit. A lot of people still don't realize that stuff like that penetrates the skin pretty easily.
I'm guessing that's a variation of Trichloroethylene? If so I saw plenty of it while hanging out with aircraft maintenance guys at Nellis.. Those guys often helped getting broken dirt bikes back together...
It's strong stuff. Just gotta be extra careful with it. I bet the MSDS sheet recommends respirator w it. But it does work.
They're using MPK now, or alcohol if it'll handle the job. I think it's been that way since the mid 2000's.MEK, methyl ethyl ketone, works great. But evaporates fast n is a carcinogenic. Even in the early 80's, the military made us glove up using that stuff. One of the only things I've seen that will actually dissolve gas turned to varnish in old motorcycle gas tanks.
It doesn't irritate your hands at all when not using gloves? They don't feel like they heat up some or turn a light shade of red?I recently had Safety Kleen change out my tank solvent (Safety Kleen solvent for 30 years now) and it has changed formula from what I could tell. It does seem to evaporate slower. My tank is ancient and holds 35 gallons, and I had 14 years of use on the last refill, so I paid the $$$$ and figure it will outlast me. I have slowed down on automatic rebuilds and don't put any more dirt/grease in the tank than necessary. The large tank let me wash the V-6 engine block during the rebuild of the 2008 3.8 Chrysler T&C I purchased for my new winter beater. I sometimes actually wear gloves now days! Been washing car parts for over 55 years now.
I think they may have gotten irritated but, mainly dried out which I usually ignored as I have very oily skin. On rare occasion I may use some hand lotion.It doesn't irritate your hands at all when not using gloves? They don't feel like they heat up some or turn a light shade of red?
Back when I shot automotive paint for a living I would clean my hands in pure Toluene. Fucked me up in ways that I had no idea of when I was in my 20s. My hands looked like a baseball glove that hadn't been oiled in 20 years. That ****, any solvent, will absorb straight into your blood stream. Not goodIt doesn't irritate your hands at all when not using gloves? They don't feel like they heat up some or turn a light shade of red?
Yeah, I saw the 'value' in using gloves fairly early on but too many said "I'm no pussy and ain't using no gloves" and well, lots of them paid dearly for thinking that way. I also used ear plugs early on but it wasn't early enough.Back when I shot automotive paint for a living I would clean my hands in pure Toluene. Fucked me up in ways that I had no idea of when I was in my 20s. My hands looked like a baseball glove that hadn't been oiled in 20 years. That ****, any solvent, will absorb straight into your blood stream. Not good
I use nitrile gloves before I pick my nose anymore unless I need total feel on something (my boogers tend to be large). When the Kung Flu hit and the prices for gloves went through the roof I panicked. Checked my stock and found I had 4,000 on hand.
I could have sold them and retired.
Huh? What did you say? Speak up sonny!I also used ear plugs early on but it wasn't early enough.