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Small block to big block

old_chrgr

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Hi all, I'm new to the forum, and not a heavy hitter gearhead, so... I have a plain jane 318 '68 Charger, and I'd love to put a 383 or 440 in it, but I have people telling me it won't work, gotta beef up the suspension, etc., etc. Not looking to race, just some more get up and go.

Thoughts? Am I barking up the wrong tree? Should I just have the 318 re-built and live with it?
 
people are idiots. it'll go right in with the correct mounts. you'll also have to convert to a big block trans and all your front accessory bracket's. you can choose to upgrade the suspension, but its not necessary to do the swap. your SB torsion bars will hold the car up just fine, it just isn't ideal if your looking for ultimate handing. and the torsion bars are a easy swap anyway if you decide to do it later down the road. Its really a pretty easy swap if you line up all your parts in advance. Put the BB in and and have some fun!
 
Sounds like you're talking to someone other than Mopar gear heads. My first swap was dropping in a 383 into place where a 318 poly head engine resided and I had very little experience with cars. This was back when you could go to the dealer for the correct engine mount brackets for the swap. The rest was just minor modifications for the distributor and water temp wiring etc. Like 68 mentioned, you will need the correct accessory brackets/pulleys etc. but what's even easier is to drop in a 340 or a 360. Those engines are pretty much a drop in since they are of the same family of engines as the teen.....and weigh within a few pounds of each other.
 
I was in the same position you are currently in 5 years ago with a 68 Charger, a tired 318 and minimal experience. I decided to keep it original and build a semi-daily driver because I thought it would be cheaper. It was not cheaper, although I have been very happy with the result and learned a ton, but if I were to do it again I'd go one of two routes . . . assuming your car is currently running.

1. If it is a "one-legger" I'd put money into a limited slip 3.55 gear and a take a good look at that transmission as it might need a shift kit or some new clutches. Then drive it, get to know the car and develop a realistic sense of everything else that may need to be done (brakes, wiring, new ball joints etc . . .) and what your budget will be. Most of all, have some fun with it and learn some basics such rebuilding a carb or two, how to set the timing and tune it and figure out how much you will actually drive it.

2. Rather than initially pouring money into the 318, save a the extra dollars to either stroke it or put in a bigger motor. I should have stroked mine. Somebody on here says "fill your library before you fill your garage" . . . Word to the wise, because even if you decide to go the route I did and keep the 318 with the stock crank, you'll still want to be smart about how you select your carb, intake cam and heads. I didn't know a lot at the time (and didn't know about this forum) and so I ended up spending a bunch of money on a valve job and a pocket port on the original heads :/ and then boring and decking the original block. The upside is that I did build a great little driver that was getting 20 mpg before I started changing the gears in the rear end and the transmission (because I wanted more torque and fun), but the down side is that I only have 192 hp to the rear wheels and 225 lbs of torque.

So at the end of the day it depends on what you want to do with the car. Anyhow, congratulations and have fun with it! :hello2:
 
68 - thanks *so* much for taking the time - that's kinda what I thought from looking at the manual...

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Cranky - thanks for the reply, and you are correct, none of them are Mopar nerds... btw, fellow Texan, I like your AARP card :)

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QQ - as with the other guys, thanks for taking the time to reply. Sounds like great advice. Now that I know a BB will in fact work, I think that's where I'll be going with it. I do have the basics, and have torn the carb apart (finding a teaspoon of peanut butter sludge in each of the 2 bowls...leaving her to sit for 20 years was *not* a good idea!). I've had the brakes re-done from booster to wheel cylinders, but still have a bit of a to do list...

Really appreciate the thoughts guys!
 
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