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When a post is deleted and a notification is made, it is a respectful gesture.
The problem with it though is that it is impossible to know what the post was.....because it cannot be viewed. Seems like a flaw in the system, huh?
I understand that deleting some opinions posted by members is a judgement call. I am not arguing the decision to clean up a messy thread, I just see the inability to see the offending post as a strange thing. How does one know what exactly was problematic? There is no way to "screenshoot" the post?
I'm not computer savvy enough to know a fix for this. It just seems like an odd situation.
 
It is a flaw. This seems like it's recurring?
 
Agreed ! Hard to know what you did wrong if you can't see problem .
 
When a post is deleted and a notification is made, it is a respectful gesture.
The problem with it though is that it is impossible to know what the post was.....because it cannot be viewed. Seems like a flaw in the system, huh?
I understand that deleting some opinions posted by members is a judgement call. I am not arguing the decision to clean up a messy thread, I just see the inability to see the offending post as a strange thing. How does one know what exactly was problematic? There is no way to "screenshoot" the post?
I'm not computer savvy enough to know a fix for this. It just seems like an odd situation.
Your thread, and it is becoming more of a political football....that, and the bitching against members who have chimed in late.
Not naming names, and not making apologies for posts deleted.

I am not going to spend more time explaining myself every time controversial or contentious posts are deleted. I don't believe the other Mods will be interested in doing that either.

Just accept the fact that we make a judgement call based on what is on screen in front of us. That thread has nearly run it's course now, and is just becoming a source for angst.
 
You know, I just tried to find the forum rules but couldn't. They must be somewhere.

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Ahhh, political! Sorry carry on!
 
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When a post is deleted and a notification is made, it is a respectful gesture.
The problem with it though is that it is impossible to know what the post was.....because it cannot be viewed. Seems like a flaw in the system, huh?
I understand that deleting some opinions posted by members is a judgement call. I am not arguing the decision to clean up a messy thread, I just see the inability to see the offending post as a strange thing. How does one know what exactly was problematic? There is no way to "screenshoot" the post?
I'm not computer savvy enough to know a fix for this. It just seems like an odd situation.
Agree. One of the simplest things to do on a PC is to take a screenshot and make a pic file of it -
and of course, most everyone here knows how to attach a pic to a post or PM. Certainly the mods do.

Of course, a mod showing a modicum of respect towards the member in question in doing so would also necessarily
pretty much invite the "offender" to argue their case once they sent said pic attached to the notice of removal
of a post - and that can become a time-consuming thing in and of itself as well.
Therefore:
The decision of the owner of this site is to handle moderating the forums as they do now as a result, as subjective
and open to personalities on both moderator and member sides as it may be.

It's a tough thing, operating a forum on the internet - much more involved than most folks realize.

How would I know this?
Quite some time ago, I was one of a handful of admin on a 10Million+ member online gaming league site,
owned by a pretty good-sized corporation.
That was a different time and it certainly was a more diverse clientele (many also who paid for perks, as in here)
and a different situation to be sure - but as far as moderating forums go, been there done that, ultimately
as a "senior admin" who got all the trouble cases.

Yes, as one might expect, doing so at a corporately-owned website is a world different than one privately held,
including such things as published user agreements, rules of engagement, all of that jazz.
A lot of the personalities and subjective decision-making is necessarily taken out of the process of moderating
an online forum as a publicly-traded corporation - which is a totally different case than here at FBBO.

What I'm saying is that the moderation of an online forum gets down to who owns it and how it is they wish
to have it done - that's the ultimate "prime directive" in a privately-held site.
It ain't an easy gig for sure - given that leeway and the potential for lots of "gray area", subjective decisions
abounds.
It's all done at the discretion of the owner, ultimately.
 
I'm not defending a mods decision to
delete a post or users comment, but
it's pretty simple really.
No politics.
Respect for forum members.
Post threads under appropriate headings.
Some threads just naturally gravitate to
to the taboos. After all, we're just human.
I spend hours on this site researching
causes and fixes for the one thing we've
all got in common.
God bless.
 
It is just a post. Absentee key strokes that you won't remember after a couple days. Not like a Catholic School nun using the ruler. When you get busted, just smile and move on. I have had a few deleted and had to go back in my content just to see what they were.
 
When a post is deleted and a notification is made, it is a respectful gesture.
The problem with it though is that it is impossible to know what the post was.....because it cannot be viewed. Seems like a flaw in the system, huh?
I understand that deleting some opinions posted by members is a judgement call. I am not arguing the decision to clean up a messy thread, I just see the inability to see the offending post as a strange thing. How does one know what exactly was problematic? There is no way to "screenshoot" the post?
I'm not computer savvy enough to know a fix for this. It just seems like an odd situation.
Here's something that you probably won't like....instead of putting even more work on us how bout you keep a running log of everything you post?? Then when something goes away, you can compare what's missing to your own log. This will soon let you know just how much 'stuff' we wade through and how much time we actually spend cleaning up the messes that happen.....not to mention everyone here does have a life off of the site to contend with.
 
We don't run the show, we just run around in it. Everyone knows what buttons to push and how hard to push them. In the real world, the squeaky wheel gets the oil, till one day, it just gets replaced.
 
Your thread, and it is becoming more of a political football....that, and the bitching against members who have chimed in late.
Not naming names, and not making apologies for posts deleted.

I am not going to spend more time explaining myself every time controversial or contentious posts are deleted. I don't believe the other Mods will be interested in doing that either.

Just accept the fact that we make a judgement call based on what is on screen in front of us. That thread has nearly run it's course now, and is just becoming a source for angst.
Unfortunately, it seems that Kern always has some sort of a problem with the way things are run here. It has been a reoccurring theme of his yet he seems to not see it very plainly. Just sayin' what I observe is all...cr8crshr/Bill:usflag::usflag::usflag:
 
There is no way to "screenshoot" the post?
No, there isnt.

The problem with it though is that it is impossible to know what the post was.....because it cannot be viewed. Seems like a flaw in the system, huh?

Perhaps -- on the other hand, you could just follow the rules and avoid the problem. See, 95% of the deleted posts come from just a handful of members who repeatedly push the limits and/or break the rules. For example, member Hey-O above, I don't remember ever deleting one of his posts. You on the other hand, have had dozens deleted.
 
It's all about him and the attention he so desperately craves!
 
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