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Anyone know? 70 RT - VIN XS29U0G148125

I did some security work (alarm installation) at our "DSIR" facility about 20 years ago. That's the Govt run Forensics outfit here.

The guys were showing us how they can track stolen vehicles with fraudulent stampings - the metal retains the original numbers to quite some depth. We saw examples of over-stamped numbers and also those that Machinists thought they had erased by milling parts that were stamped.

Those numbers could still be read. So be aware anyone out there trying to fake the satmpings....they can be caught out if someone cares to spend the time required to prove it is a fake.

We were also shown the Ballistics test chamber - where they fire ammo into similar targets to the victims - or materials. Very interesting stuff. :)
 
The car in the OP is absolutely drop-dead gorgeous and all the more stunningly beautiful without the optional front bumperettes. The bumperettes are a personal opinion kind of thing you know. :)

I like everything about the dash VIN plate on this Charger. I've been critical of other dash VIN plates posted to the NOT MINE cars for sale threads. I haven't changed my mind about one in particular @kiwigtx :poke:
:)

If we wanted to get really picky about something on the OP car, then we could say a couple of things about the fender tag screws and the smooth paint (no rag marks) around the fender tag itself. Mine for comparison is below:

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The OP car is a home run!
 
DeltaV said:
The car in the OP is absolutely drop-dead gorgeous and all the more stunningly beautiful without the optional front bumperettes. The bumperettes are a personal opinion kind of thing you know. :)

I like everything about the dash VIN plate on this Charger. I've been critical of other dash VIN plates posted to the NOT MINE cars for sale threads. I haven't changed my mind about one in particular @kiwigtx :poke:
:)

If we wanted to get really picky about something on the OP car, then we could say a couple of things about the fender tag screws and the smooth paint (no rag marks) around the fender tag itself. Mine for comparison is below:

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The OP car is a home run!
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That's a great looking tag Wayne..... and to me is 100% legit. Also noted the SPD is only 4 days before my ex-GTX at the St Louis plant. :)
 
DeltaV said:
The car in the OP is absolutely drop-dead gorgeous and all the more stunningly beautiful without the optional front bumperettes. The bumperettes are a personal opinion kind of thing you know. :)

I like everything about the dash VIN plate on this Charger. I've been critical of other dash VIN plates posted to the NOT MINE cars for sale threads. I haven't changed my mind about one in particular @kiwigtx :poke:
:)

If we wanted to get really picky about something on the OP car, then we could say a couple of things about the fender tag screws and the smooth paint (no rag marks) around the fender tag itself. Mine for comparison is below:

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The OP car is a home run!
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Thanks Wayne! We’ll see how it works out.
 
Looks to be a pretty nice car. Unless I missed it in the add/link somewhere what is the asking/sold price for this beauty?
 
I would think someone trying to fake a VIN stamp would be prone to making it too perfect
 
6PKRTSE said:
Looks to be a pretty nice car. Unless I missed it in the add/link somewhere what is the asking/sold price for this beauty?
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The posted ad was the current owner’s purchase years back.
 
Thanks for all your helpful input guys! I value the FBBO expertise here.
 
If you go to visit the car, check the date casting numbers on the engine block, intake manifold, and exhaust manifolds. They should be at least 30 days before the build date on the fender tag.
 
Graveyard Cars had a recent episode on reading codes and serial number locations for a charger. You may want to search it on youtube. It was very good info.
I believe they mention power brakes standard on R/T?

If it's big bucks I would want verification of the numbers on the radiator support and trunk rail.
Is there a broadcast sheet?
The leaf sprigs were heavy duty?
The fuel line in 3/8?
Is the radiator and shroud correct number? Big bucks to find the right ones....
Does it have the proper fan?
I think there is a way to verify that is an 18 spline trans. And year? Ask Brewer
Does the carb number match? - again big bucks to find the right one for that application
Proper exhaust manifold castings?

I could go on and on. I'm sure others can chime in.

At least write a clause in the sale that if upon inspection the car sold as a numbers matching car fails inspection that you get reimbursed or if you really like the car get a reduction in price. Perhaps a deposit and contingent upon inspection to verify that the car is number matching.

The difference today is that these cars are selling for such high prices that people are going through great lengths to create "original" numbers matching cars. It's an investment now and that requires a Mopar expert inspection.

Even a boat sale allows an inspection before completing the sale......
 
Road Grabber said:
Graveyard Cars had a recent episode on reading codes and serial number locations for a charger. You may want to search it on youtube. It was very good info.
I believe they mention power brakes standard on R/T?

If it's big bucks I would want verification of the numbers on the radiator support and trunk rail.
Is there a broadcast sheet?
The leaf sprigs were heavy duty?
The fuel line in 3/8?
Is the radiator and shroud correct number? Big bucks to find the right ones....
Does it have the proper fan?
I think there is a way to verify that is an 18 spline trans. And year? Ask Brewer
Does the carb number match? - again big bucks to find the right one for that application
Proper exhaust manifold castings?

I could go on and on. I'm sure others can chime in.

At least write a clause in the sale that if upon inspection the car sold as a numbers matching car fails inspection that you get reimbursed or if you really like the car get a reduction in price. Perhaps a deposit and contingent upon inspection to verify that the car is number matching.

The difference today is that these cars are selling for such high prices that people are going through great lengths to create "original" numbers matching cars. It's an investment now and that requires a Mopar expert inspection.

Even a boat sale allows an inspection before completing the sale......
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Great points. In person inspection (made that stupid mistake once) is a given to validate 100% as represented. I’m very fortunate to have a gracious, local lifelong, charger friend to help with the inspection. Appreciate the detailed input!
 
Just pondering.... is something wrong with the car for it to be sold so many times recently..... most people have to basically die before the car gets sold .... but the same one 3, 4, 5 times .... somethings not adding up .... just asking... do your due diligence...
 
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