Giants of Egypt, might could possibly shed some light on massive building projects

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    that would explain why the doorways are so tall and wide.....
    at a lot of these sites.

    also would explain something thats been bothering me for some time...
    current theory has it,there was a zillion people running around pulling ropes and moving stones,
    which,is absurd because once youve Seen the blocks inside the Tunnels and the amount of space there,you realize Levitation is the Only way these stones got placed anywhere.
    there is simply No room for people,giants,
    nor whomever to be anywheres in a position to manually lift those stones.

    which also solves my problem,that being..
    if there was zillions of people in various places around the world working living and Dying,
    in and around the sites/villages,
    Wheres their Bones?
    if you actually think about this,and whats been discovered around the sites,
    then again,it hits you....
    theres not enough bones nor graves nor even villages/towns to support this kind of massive scale.
    there simply couldnt have been zillions of people round.

    so that just leaves a few theories on the table..logically.
    aliens...such as the annaki~ ,
    which are shown in carvings And paintings ON ships and using suits that look a Lot like spacesuits.
    plus theres the many descriptions of its Thunder when it takes off,ability to fly great distances etc etc.
    or giants....with powers of light and nature at their command.
    orrrrrr
    ancient humans with Very advanced powers of the mind and knowledge of harnessing the suns rays to cut stone And move them.

    theres a ton of conspiracy theories about governments keeping finds from people and even destroying them.
    what If...the theories were true?
    lets just try one out for size.
    theory.
    what if,we were neanderthals,
    and were genetically engineered by aliens from other planets to be their Slaves.
    our job was to work for them and worship them,as their " gods "
    at some point,many many years later we somehow became " intelligent" and our gods/aliens decided it was time to leave.
    " referencing the adam/eve story."
    moving along our current history path we have many forms of Worship,
    and think we have evolved by ourselves and all that jazz,
    So
    what would be the Upheaval if the truth came out that we Were only slaves,
    and there was no gods period,just some aliens who used us briefly on their pitstop thru the galaxy??
     
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      Check out Brien Foerster.
      Sacsayhuaman is nuts.
      There's also a guy on youtube who explores India, even crazier stuff.

      Also, I think we're just dumber now, and no one wants use to know we used to be smarter.

      2 minute mark:
       
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        Teh Romans moved stone blocks at Baalbek that weighed 1000 tons.
         
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        Not everyone believes that. Romans were great engineers, but never moved 1000 tons, not even in their own backyard.
        Why cut 2 other 1000 ton blocks and leave them in the quarry?

        There is something older under the temple they built there.

        Look at Ollantaytambo in Peru, mega blocks moved up a mountain, with blocks left along the route to the top.

        Something was going on here long ago and stopped suddenly.

        There are sites with vitrified stone, not possible in our known history.

        We came along, built on top of it, called it our own, or ignored it.
         
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          The Bible mentions a race of giants (Goliath the Philistine, for one) but said nothing about them building anything remarkable. These giants lived among normal sized people in normal cities. However, I do find it odd that no giant bones have been found in that region of western Asia.
           
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            As I, and many others have said, " There's at least SOME truth to every legend or myth." Why else perpetuate such legends and myths/ stories throughout many centuries? You wouldn't bother to pass down such info unless it was important. As for the Giza pyramids, lets look at it logically. 2.5 MILLION stones, all of them many tons in weight. These stones are sitting on a bedrock absolutely flat. The declination of the base has not moved more than 1/4 INCH in untold centuries. Impossible with todays advanced methods of building. 6" over 100 years is the standard today. The apex's of the three pyramids Pointed exactly to the three stars in Orion's belt in the year 10, 450 BC. This the ONLY time they do, UNLESS you go back one full procession of Earth's passage through the axis of rotation of more than 26,000 years to the time they also lined up. At any rate, they could not have been built after 10,450BC or they would not be dead on balls lined up with those three stars. Period, no argument possible at all. Simply could not have been done.
            Now, back to those stones. I will concede that they could have been quarried up river and floated down on barges. That would have required a LOT of effort in itself, over many, many years.
            So, given that scenario those stones would also have to have been unloaded from said floating barges and moved uphill to the building site. From whence they would have to be moved into place. it would have taken decades to smooth the bedrock base to begin with. Then to get the first stones in place exactly so, because as you go up they also have to remain lined up so they arrive at the apex still in perfect alignment. Remember also that the pyramids are 8 sided. Not 4. Okay, so we have the stones coming up from the river Nile, the second row needs to be lifted some 5-6 feet up. Each one. And, each one has to be dressed by stonemasons so that there is no gap. try to pick up a dead smooth block of polished granite that weighs even one ton. Good luck with that. So you say, " Well, they had to be lifted off the barges, right? So use the same method to lift the stones into place". Okay, i'll buy that for the first two rows, maybe. Third row and up? No chance. 400+ feet up? Even less chance.
            My point is that once you begin to break down the building process logically it just cannot be done using the tools and methods in evidence at the time we are "told" that they were built by Archeologists. (Read charlatan's).
            So then, class, where does that leave us?
            That leaves us with the pyramids being built by more advanced peoples later in history, which we know is not true, or, being built by a civilization from a much earlier time. Because, if the time they were built in preceded the old dynasty by very much they would have recorded that somewhere. Right? So they MUST have been built so far back in antiquity that all knowledge of them is reduced to legend and myths. Okay, say that is true. We now run up against the Great Flood. everyone but a few were wiped out, yes? It happened around 12,600- 15,500BC.So then, carrying that forward then the builders must have been survivors of the flood in 10,450 BC. You know, when those star alignments are correct. So if THAT's true we are saying those survivors who would have been left with nothing but their skins after the Great Flood then somehow gained, at a minimum of 2500 years the abilities needed to erect these great monuments? And then promptly forgot to record the deeds anywhere? And also forgot how it was done because nobody later on knew that information. WE have progressed a mire 6500 years or so, if those pesky archeologists are to be believed, and WE cant do it.
            Okay, say all of THAT is BS, which it must be. right?
            That leaves us with the pyramids being built in 36,450+ then right? Because of that other pesky FACT, the alignment to the stars. Lets say that is true.
            Where then is the evidence of that great civilization existence? THEY must have been much more advanced than we presently are right? After all, WE cant build them today.
            You say, " Well, that was a long time ago, those bones would be dust, right?"
            Nope, remember those big assed dino's from like 65 million years ago? Yeah, THOSE bones are just fine as fossils.
            So then, a great civilization of advanced peoples must have existed to build those pyramids. Where did they go, because they are gone completely. No trace has been found so far. We can see back millions of years in ice cores and sediments of geological structures. No traces of these advanced people or there doings, as they MUST have had some affect on their surroundings right? We sure have. Nope, nada.
            So then, class, what does this all mean?
            It means that A. There has been at least one enormous cataclysm that rewrote the face of the planet so deeply that any trace is long buried so deep that we will never find it. If this were true then how did the pyramids survive?
            or B. That whomever those peoples were they were able to leave the planet.
            or C. Devine intervention of some sort. WHISKING them all way without a trace.
            or D. they were burned to a crisp by some solar thing and the ashes blown away.
            At any rate, those pyramids were NOT built in like 4500 BC. Not in 10,450BC and maybe not in 36,450BC + either.
            So then, that leaves us with an even earlier time? Same set of questions apply, where are they?
             
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                ^^^^^I know, right? Wonder how it will turn out?
                 
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                Fantastic things don't necessarily need fantastic explanations.
                The guy in that video moved huge weights by himself, an entire building too, using the simplest of tools and the least amount of manpower, 1.

                The pyramids have remains of polygonal casing stones, same polygonal design with the 'bumps' as found in Peru and other parts of the globe. Not smooth and at an angle.

                Easter Island, Lebanon, Egypt, Peru, India, you name it, the evidence shows there was a global society that had shared technology, and it all stopped dramatically.
                Then the modern Egyptians, South Americans, etc, came along and built on top of what was found, fairly crudely.

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                  yeah, that's one of my favorite videos.
                   
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                  I don't think you can call the pyramids of Giza crude.. They have chambers inside chambers and they found ways to distribute the weight so it didn't fall in on itself. The angles and placement of these enormous stones was an extraordinary accomplishment. The feat of mining, transporting, and placing these stones is mind boggling, but it was done by man. More and more over the years evidence has been found of worker cities that existed around the great pyramids. That tens of thousands of workers lived and died at these sites. Sands over thousands of years have covered much, but in time I think more secrets will come to light and I highly doubt anything will show external forces at work.

                  I think it's pretty well accepted that they are about five thousand years old by most of the leading Egyptologist. The technical feat was remarkable for the time period, but I don't buy some alien beings coming down to assist them. Man can do some remarkable thing as Egypt, Greece, and Rome can attest to. Sometimes similar things are done be two or more people or civilizations, in different parts of the world, and are thought of has having some unearthly connection. Maybe they did this thing in a similar manner because they both figured out it was the best way to resolve the problem.

                  You always hear the fact that we put men on the moon and brought them home with computers less sophisticated than our cell phones. Given the challenge people can do remarkable things.
                  Like the Hemi.
                   
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                    I like to believe the Amazon women warriors were real. :)
                     
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                      see,thats my point ghostrider...i Agree with you.
                      once you start hitting all these supposed facts with logic,
                      the so called archeologists theories collapse.

                      i really like that you hit on another point,the raising of these stones at such high elevations.
                      just doesnt make sense does it?
                      how did they get anywheres near the top without major scaffolding of some mindboggling construction??
                      the layout is Precise,the stones are precise,and the Positioning is precise.
                      we probably couldnt accomplish this today,not that size not being perfect when it was done.

                      and we didnt hit on the stones themselves.
                      if some of you have watched this stuff,as im sure you have,
                      then you know almost all of the rocks show glazing,
                      or the effect of Tremendous heat on the Faces of the rocks.
                      almost like they were indeed,cut with a lightsaber.
                      but heres the catch..even if we had lightsabers,right here right now..
                      do you think we would still be able to cut rock Perfectly both on the outer Faces,
                      and cut the inside out perfectly as well?
                      of course not..we would need some computer controlled machine to make Perfect cuts right?
                      soooo...how did they do it....?

                      thats not even discussing those Other walls,
                      where the stones are cut to fit in the oddest ways but perfectly cut Again.
                       
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                        Sphinx is oldest structure on planet.....Egyptians did not build it, it was a Lion made when that environ was green(explain the lap straked rowing vessels found buried in the sand). Egyptians carved Pharaoh's head into Lion. Sphinx has been uncovered of sand several times through the past.

                        If a plum drop was hung from the apex of the Great Pyramid, it would meet ABSOLUTE DEAD ON center pyramid floor. To achieve this builders had to have had formula for Pi. Supposedly Pi was discovered by the Greek Pythagoras in 300 something B.C.
                        For all the Great Stone Structures the Earth over, the rocks were ALWAYS quarried 200 or more miles from the construction sites.

                        Coral Castle, where a 95 lb Guy moved 5 plus ton stones around by Himself(not to mention the near zero tolerance cutting & fitting). In the Guy's notes/drawings, He used a simple tri-pod with a mysterious black box(the tri-pod was found but not the box). This tri-pod & box are also in Masonic symbology.
                        Hell, Our modern day machinery can't even move the largest of these Stones without frequent breakdown.

                        Current C.A.D. cannot map construction as accurate as the geometry of the Great Pyramid.

                        The Piri Reis map from 1513 plots PERFECT longitude(also shows Antarctica as a GREEN land mass roughly 30 degrees northeast of present location). We could NOT plot accurate longitude until the 1800's, it took the advent of the marine chronometer to do so. Present day tomography shows the lay of the land under the ice in Antarctica to be as it is mapped on the Piri Reis map of 1513.............
                         
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                          I think the bible referred to the giants as Nephilum or Nephylum
                           
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                            I think he was saying that the later peoples built on top of older structures and were not as skilled. Not the Pyramids. As far as the worker cities around them goes, I was not aware that it had been proven that those dwellers raised the Pyramids. They could just as easily be the ones who pulled the casing stones off to use in building Cairo. Yes,, those huge blocks can be lifted by one man using leverage and weight transfer. try that trick at 400 feet up and then move the block sideways to the inclined wall of the pyramid. Nope. Sorry, I have very little faith in anything Egyptologists say, or archeologists either. They are padding there own careers every time they open their mouths.
                            It HAS been proven that the Incas used an acidic mixture of mine tailing water and plants which were applied in a mud like smear on the sides and bottoms of rocks. This stuff actually melted the surface making it soft enough to mold the rocks together more closely via their weight. This is why a razor blade will not go between them. All those oddly shaped rocks in their walls are shaped to fall back into place with each other after an Earthquake. Very clever. This acidic mixture is also why the edges look shiny. Instead of setting them in mortar, the rocks are the mortar. Dating the Pyramids is not possible. The dating method depends on organic matter found " In situ" under whatever rocks you are working on. There is no organic matter in, on, or under the pyramids. the best they can do is to date matter taken from under discarded quarry stones but they cannot say those stones were cut the same time as the actual ones on the pyramids. So, those tales about them being 5000 years old are BS. A guess at best. That guess was made a long time ago and no Egyptologist worth his digging tools is going to go against that date because to do so would invalidate everyone's work to date. Cutting each throat with the same knife.
                            Has not happened yet, and never will.
                            That is also the reason anyone who challenges those theories is shouted down, ridiculed, and discredited. They can NOT let it be true, for fear of losing any credibility, and thus their livelihoods.
                             
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                              There is some King Herod-era construction in Jersulem with large stones. One is 500 tons.
                               
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                                You have to remember man masters his environment at the time that he's alive. Take him out of that environment, and he's a newborn again. You can't take an ice age man and expect him to fit in today's world, nor can you expect a modern man to live like they did 10,000 years ago.
                                 
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                                  Your opinion is valid to you, and you can believe whatever you want. I'm not saying your wrong, there have been many opinions of Egypt's civilization. Me I go along with the majority of people that have been trained and spent most of their lives working in this field. The consensuses among learned people in this field is they have been dated correctly. If you agree with your colleagues, through your own findings, I don't see how that is padding your career. I think the hand full of people that offer these extraordinary concepts are out there to sell books and "pad" their wallets on sheer speculation and manipulation of accepted theorizes. Some people look for conspiracy around any corners and that is how they make their livings.. I'm not an Egyptologist, never studied it in school, so i lean towards mainstream accepted theories in this case. As far as Egypt goes, they are ALL theories, and we can only go with the one that makes the most sense to us. > IMHO
                                   
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