So, this happened - seeking advice from painters, please!

Exterior Body, Paint, Trim, Chrome

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    She looks GREAT !!!!! Glad to see her back. So, did Haggerty cover all that work? Was it a supplemental?
     
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      lmao @ all that pdr nonsense:fool: :lol:


      congrats ED.... glad it worked out in your favor!
       
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        Looks like the shop did right by you and went above and beyond. Be sure to give them positive reviews and forward their good name to others. Good honest bodywork folks (like @eldubb440 above) are hard to find.
         
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          She looks awesome and as I’ve said before - love that color too! Have you ever thought about putting the rocker moldings and stripes on her? Would really make that paint pop!
           
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          moparedtn Ed on the Ridge FBBO Gold Member

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          Hagerty covered the dent and subsequent necessary refinishing of both quarters and roof.
          The body shop filed for a supplemental on the original estimate so that they could fix the drivers' side
          roof seam and got some extra for that.
          I paid extra to get the rockers squared away and they went ahead and did the other sides' roof seam
          since "it was probably headed the same way as the drivers' side".

          I was out there this evening for a while, cleaning up on the car some (not real thrilled at their cleanup guy, I must
          say) and it's quite apparent they painted the entire roof down to the a-pillars, the quarters and the rockers.
          Looks like everything else on the car got either some sort of tinted clear or just a buffing.
           
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            moparedtn Ed on the Ridge FBBO Gold Member

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            Thanks. Yeah, I pretty much knew when the dent was "oil canning" on me that the crease
            was too much for a PDR type deal.
             
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            moparedtn Ed on the Ridge FBBO Gold Member

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            Yes sir, indeed. I'm big on singing praises - or yelling condemnation when earned.
            Although I have a few cleanup challenges left over from their work (overspray at tape spots, along with some sort of
            "film" residue in places) and they were lousy at communication and holding a deadline, I mustered up all the patience
            I could (I'm not patient at all usually) and let them do their thing.
            That said, I'm very thankful to have her home. I was a wreck while she was gone, surprisingly so.

            Oh, almost forgot to mention....
            The shop foreman reported that the car has an "amazingly good" amount of good metal in it. He says you just don't
            see them that clean (as in minimal filler, etc.) and that he was surprised.
            He also said word got around town and a lot of people stopped in to see her for some reason??
            (That part made me nervous!)
            Said several wanted to make offers on her.
            If they only knew what a patchwork of mismatched stuff she really is.... :)

            Scorecard
            Hagerty: A+ all the way, handled everything perfectly
            Body shop: A; communication and cleanliness need work, but their work itself is VERY good
            Previous owner: B-; he did manage to get good metal in the car everywhere pretty much, but
            cut many corners and did some slap happy work to get the car sold
             
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              Good to see that Hagerty handled it well. Quite a few of us use them ( me included) !! :thumbsup:
               
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                I have absolutely nothing bad to report on them. They handled everything efficiently and followed up as things progressed.
                Only thing left to see is how much my premium is going to go up from the claim now. :eek:
                 
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                So glad to see she's back home where she belongs. Sounds like you got a real winner of a shop who knows their stuff on these old cars.
                 
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                  Thanky kindly. :)
                  Yeah, the dude kept saying "she's gonna get the love she needs here" over and over. :lol:

                  I don't want to piss on their parade, but there's some leftover residual, well, residue left at the base of the roof
                  on all four corners. It almost looks like collected small pools of clearcoat? Kinda like the acrylic mama used to
                  put on the kitchen floor, if that makes sense.
                  I got to get something a bit stronger than what I have to get that off.
                  Thinking polishing compound maybe?
                   
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                    Why don't you bring it over to them to remove? If you damage the clearcoat while doing it, they're off the hook.
                     
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                      moparedtn Ed on the Ridge FBBO Gold Member

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                      Oh no, I'm done bringing it over to them for a while. Or ever. :)
                       
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                      Glad to hear it all worked out great for you Ed!!
                       
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                        Looks sharp!! I'm glad you had a painless experience. Now go drive the wheels off. :)
                         
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                          moparedtn Ed on the Ridge FBBO Gold Member

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                          Thank ya brother!
                          Thanks. Yes sir, that IS the plan.
                          I just realized she's only been to one event of any kind this summer so far!
                          I reckon she'll be at this one:
                           
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                          Could be where they blended the clear coat. Could be adhesion promoter. In any case, if you try to buff it off, it will leave a sharper line where the two meet. It will be more visible. They should have found a line or edge to stop instead of blending the clear coat.

                          I would bite the bullet and stop by their shop with it and show them what you see. Now's the time to fix it, not later.
                           
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                            moparedtn Ed on the Ridge FBBO Gold Member

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                            I don't think that's what it is.
                            Hard to explain exactly - more like random splotches of what looks like a milky/hazy, very thin plasticky substance.
                            I'll see if I can get the camera to capture one...


                            EDIT: Now that I look at it up close, it almost looks like they tried to shoot some clear over the old paint in that area and it didn't adhere?
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                            Is it a base coat/ clear coat paint job?
                             
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                            Yes. As previously described, the original (11 years old!) paint job that was half-assed by the previous owner was base/clear, Sherwin-Williams paint.
                            I still have some leftover paint that the PO gave me, along with the original S-W paint codes.

                            When this body shop got the job, the Hagerty estimator figured on re-finishing both quarters and the roof, purportedly at least in part by tinting some fresh clear to help blend old into new colors.

                            This body shop does not use S-W paints; instead, they do water-based whatever, but he was sure he could exact match my paint using one of those high-tech scanner thingies.
                            Well, the rest is history as it were - the car wound up taking another week from originally promised and, lo and behold, they actually repainted both quarters, the rockers AND the roof - telling me they wound up going to another shop in the same town who does use S-W paints and having them mix some up for them.

                            Guy at the body shop asks me how I liked the color match. When I replied "looks exact", he said yep...
                            because it actually IS the same exact brand and code of paint as originally used.
                            He also noted it looked like the car hadn't spent much time outside in the last 11 years, which is also true - no fading of the original paint.

                            Anyways, they left some messy bits around the perimeter of the work areas I gotta clean up now, so there's that - but no, I'm done with body shops and all that for a while.
                            I've tried scratch remover and Meguire's Gold polish, both of which are zero abrasive. It took a little bit of the splotches off, but no amount of elbow grease will help further using those.
                            I've also used 3M Adhesive Remover under advice of my restorer friend, which helped some as well (that stuff is AWESOME when getting old, dried out/caked compound out of joints and crevasses!).

                            Next step I guess is to try a mild polishing compound?
                             
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