Looking for tips on selling the car
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When selling a car recently- I too had a couple of companies that wanted to help me sell it for a fee. One, in particular, pitched advertising for the "overseas market" and their fee was about $450.
My car was advertised in Hemmings and could be easily found by way of the internet. (many pictures and all)
I had a long conversation with this guy that essentially was explaining to me how foolish I was for expecting a buyer to find my car for sale and that he could get a substantially higher price for me.
My response was that he had found my car for sale just like an interested buyer would and that he should buy it for my price and sell it for much more than the price of his fee.
He hung up on me but called back a few months later with the same pitch having forgotten he called me earlier. I told him about talking with what felt to me like a scam for just what he was doing. He asked if I minded telling him what company called me. I said It was you and it took 30min. before you understood the meaning of --no thanks-.
This time he called me a few rude names so I would understand how naive I was about the car market and -how it works- before he hung up on me again.
IMO If one wants to hire another to sell a car for them for a fee --that fee should include the ad and negotiations right up to the transfer of funds.
BTW I did sell to an overseas buyer that knew where to look for cars for sale.
My car was advertised in Hemmings and could be easily found by way of the internet. (many pictures and all)
I had a long conversation with this guy that essentially was explaining to me how foolish I was for expecting a buyer to find my car for sale and that he could get a substantially higher price for me.
My response was that he had found my car for sale just like an interested buyer would and that he should buy it for my price and sell it for much more than the price of his fee.
He hung up on me but called back a few months later with the same pitch having forgotten he called me earlier. I told him about talking with what felt to me like a scam for just what he was doing. He asked if I minded telling him what company called me. I said It was you and it took 30min. before you understood the meaning of --no thanks-.
This time he called me a few rude names so I would understand how naive I was about the car market and -how it works- before he hung up on me again.
IMO If one wants to hire another to sell a car for them for a fee --that fee should include the ad and negotiations right up to the transfer of funds.
BTW I did sell to an overseas buyer that knew where to look for cars for sale.
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Frank Mopar
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List it as a clone. Seems like people are willing to pay big money for decals.
Just kidding. Good luck with the sale.
God I hate clone cars.
Just kidding. Good luck with the sale.
God I hate clone cars.
rlem1977
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eBay = much less BS than CL. Too many scams on CL, and so many douchebags asking if you can finance. Yeah, I have a 1 payment plan..all up front.
rlem1977
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There was a similar '70 Super Bee that sold at Mecum Kissimmee this year, Green/Green 383 4-speed, nice looking car. Sold for $36,300. I was looking at Hagerty for insurance on my Super Bee. They have the value of a #1 Concourse Super Bee @ $40k. A #2 Excellent Condition one valued at $30k. You could always try a Mecum auction if one is close enough to you, put a reserve on it. But there are significant fees to do so. Good luck.
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I love, love, love '70 Super Bees. A kid at my school had one. Just not in my price range right now.
mosquito13
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Did I mention a hot girl scantily dressed in front or on car for cover photo always gets me to look twice. Take the car to a strip club and park under the lights. Hooters girls will come out for a good tip if you need daylight, it is spring break in FLA a picture of margaritas will buy a lot of cleavage.
YY1
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This shows values a little higher but even then the OP is priced between #2 (full retail) and #1(95 point show only car)
1970 DODGE SUPERBEE 383-335hp (8cyl-4V) AT
MOBILE
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
2dr Hardtop 5350 14250 27650 40600 63025
2dr Sedan 5075 13550 26275 38575 59875
Add:
440-375hp (8cyl-4V) 15%
440-390hp (V8-3x2V) 50%
Air conditioning 10%
Power windows 3%
Air Grabber hood 7%
Deduct:
3spd manual transmission -10%
Automatic transmission -3%
Manual steering -5%
Bench seat -5%
Column shift -5%
1970 DODGE SUPERBEE 383-335hp (8cyl-4V) AT
MOBILE
#5 #4 #3 #2 #1
2dr Hardtop 5350 14250 27650 40600 63025
2dr Sedan 5075 13550 26275 38575 59875
Add:
440-375hp (8cyl-4V) 15%
440-390hp (V8-3x2V) 50%
Air conditioning 10%
Power windows 3%
Air Grabber hood 7%
Deduct:
3spd manual transmission -10%
Automatic transmission -3%
Manual steering -5%
Bench seat -5%
Column shift -5%
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I'm liking the girls at Twin Peaks better.
Gone
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If that was my car, I'd tell her she could stand beside it but not to put her foot on the chrome!
4mayhemi
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It is a 70 so it'll sit a while longer than other mopars. Yellow and $40K narrows the field too.
There are a bunch of 70's on the market. A desired-optioned mopar will sell all day. If it's standard fare, you have to hook a buyer on the merits of the car to get 'em interested.
To do that yourself (from a buyer's perspective):
- Take a hundred pics, close up too. See the pros' ads for examples. Digital doesn't cost anything more. Use good lighting and get underneath. It's not lazy buyers, it just shows there's nothing to hide and you get what you get.
- Describe fully. Describe the sheetmetal, interior, paint, brightwork, etc. Break down the fender tag. Explain the downfalls or missing parts. Explain what you rebuilt in what way or have receipts available. A very detailed, knowledgeable owner about his car projects trustworthiness.
- You have to work for it. Send out those extra pics via email. Have your title ready. Deal with morons. If someone is debating driving 5 hours, they want to have a detailed picture in their head so they can check those items off and look at other things or verify what you said about the car.
- Price it according to market. Don't say "asking $40 negotiable." That's a given, you'll be offered $28. List it for $34 they'll still offer $28. So be willing to come to $32 or price it right and say "firm." Requires research on the market, not adding up your receipts. Be realistic about what kind of car buyers expect from different price tiers for that model.
- You have the main websites covered. Facebook car groups, even with all the drama, is still good to get it out there.
If you can't or don't want to do much, then a 3rd party is the best way to go. They hook a buyer on the lifestyle more than the car, and offer financing to boot.
Good luck with the sale, it only takes finding that one buyer.
There are a bunch of 70's on the market. A desired-optioned mopar will sell all day. If it's standard fare, you have to hook a buyer on the merits of the car to get 'em interested.
To do that yourself (from a buyer's perspective):
- Take a hundred pics, close up too. See the pros' ads for examples. Digital doesn't cost anything more. Use good lighting and get underneath. It's not lazy buyers, it just shows there's nothing to hide and you get what you get.
- Describe fully. Describe the sheetmetal, interior, paint, brightwork, etc. Break down the fender tag. Explain the downfalls or missing parts. Explain what you rebuilt in what way or have receipts available. A very detailed, knowledgeable owner about his car projects trustworthiness.
- You have to work for it. Send out those extra pics via email. Have your title ready. Deal with morons. If someone is debating driving 5 hours, they want to have a detailed picture in their head so they can check those items off and look at other things or verify what you said about the car.
- Price it according to market. Don't say "asking $40 negotiable." That's a given, you'll be offered $28. List it for $34 they'll still offer $28. So be willing to come to $32 or price it right and say "firm." Requires research on the market, not adding up your receipts. Be realistic about what kind of car buyers expect from different price tiers for that model.
- You have the main websites covered. Facebook car groups, even with all the drama, is still good to get it out there.
If you can't or don't want to do much, then a 3rd party is the best way to go. They hook a buyer on the lifestyle more than the car, and offer financing to boot.
Good luck with the sale, it only takes finding that one buyer.
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Putting her foot behind her ears would help in the interest of the car.If that was my car, I'd tell her she could stand beside it but not to put her foot on the chrome!
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I haven't sold **** for a while, I'm on my 110th car/truck now...
The last car I sold word of mouth, to someone I already knew too
go figure !!, for what I wanted & I even got to keep some parts
{A12 lift off hood, & all the pins/brackets etc. & low deck 6bbl carbs & air-cleaner about $3500-$4000 worth, in 2007 $$$'s}
& swap out a couple, that I'd have had to sell separately
Try these guys for estimated value
http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Cars
it gives a decent value, but not the be all & end all
it's sort of quirky at times, not real as in options etc., but a decent guideline...
also try
https://www.autabuy.com
I sold a couple cars off that site
AutoTrader {American Classics} use to be decent
https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars-for-sale/american_classics-for-sale
I look in this site often too, some deals & some move fast
others are there for a while too, I think it's that way for most sites
http://www.racingjunk.com
I hate E-scam, but it is a good way to get the car out there/exposure
lots of troll on E-Bay too, that where a shitload of the 2nd party
flippers/buyers come from...
Good luck, you need to get good quality photos
& shitloads of them from every conceivable angles too,
you will be asked multiple times
about this & that #'s matching etc.,
include as much pertinent info/descriptions
& photos as humanly possible...
If it stays listed too long,
you will get the wrath of the regulars that look often
& say the car was on for x-amount of months it's overpriced etc.
& he hasn't sold it, I saw it at so & so, last year for x-amount etc.
I dread the days I sell stuff, anymore !!
Seems todays market is full of looky loos
& photo collectors, or cheap asses, flippers & price-point shoppers...
Someone will always want to negotiate & try to get it for less,
"but IMHFO" don't overprice it or it will never sell...
Be real not the pie in the sky pricing...
Unless you just don't care & are just phishing to see what "it may bring"...
But; be patient, if your car is worth what you ask, "if it's a reasonable price",
it will eventually sell...
IMO todays market the adds are flooded with cars that are overpriced
or bought when prices were inflated or they spent way too much
"paying someone else to build it & are buried in it as in costs"
under cut them types, if you want a fast sale, or bite the bullet & wait
for the perfect *** to fit your expectation, or to fit your seat/car...
Good luck again
The last car I sold word of mouth, to someone I already knew too
go figure !!, for what I wanted & I even got to keep some parts
{A12 lift off hood, & all the pins/brackets etc. & low deck 6bbl carbs & air-cleaner about $3500-$4000 worth, in 2007 $$$'s}
& swap out a couple, that I'd have had to sell separately
Try these guys for estimated value
http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Cars
it gives a decent value, but not the be all & end all
it's sort of quirky at times, not real as in options etc., but a decent guideline...
also try
https://www.autabuy.com
I sold a couple cars off that site
AutoTrader {American Classics} use to be decent
https://classics.autotrader.com/classic-cars-for-sale/american_classics-for-sale
I look in this site often too, some deals & some move fast
others are there for a while too, I think it's that way for most sites
http://www.racingjunk.com
I hate E-scam, but it is a good way to get the car out there/exposure
lots of troll on E-Bay too, that where a shitload of the 2nd party
flippers/buyers come from...
Good luck, you need to get good quality photos
& shitloads of them from every conceivable angles too,
you will be asked multiple times
about this & that #'s matching etc.,
include as much pertinent info/descriptions
& photos as humanly possible...
If it stays listed too long,
you will get the wrath of the regulars that look often
& say the car was on for x-amount of months it's overpriced etc.
& he hasn't sold it, I saw it at so & so, last year for x-amount etc.
I dread the days I sell stuff, anymore !!
Seems todays market is full of looky loos
& photo collectors, or cheap asses, flippers & price-point shoppers...
Someone will always want to negotiate & try to get it for less,
"but IMHFO" don't overprice it or it will never sell...
Be real not the pie in the sky pricing...
Unless you just don't care & are just phishing to see what "it may bring"...
But; be patient, if your car is worth what you ask, "if it's a reasonable price",
it will eventually sell...
IMO todays market the adds are flooded with cars that are overpriced
or bought when prices were inflated or they spent way too much
"paying someone else to build it & are buried in it as in costs"
under cut them types, if you want a fast sale, or bite the bullet & wait
for the perfect *** to fit your expectation, or to fit your seat/car...
Good luck again
Gone
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Great tips from everybody and I appreciate it. In retrospect, I probably have the car overpriced and I also need to market it better. I'll eventually get 'er sold; at least I'm not in a must sell situation.
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I just got home from the grocery store and instead of having the AutaBuy they had a newsprint type magazine called Mopar Muscle Roundup. Don't know if it's new or been around for awhile.
satellite plumah
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!0 years ago a custom car with big wheels and a big $$ finish was still only a 50-60k car at B.J. auction ..original Hemi's and A12's were 130-200k ..NOW custom Kandigit cars are 200k and anybody old enough to care about numbers either has the car of their dreams or gave up when they were ridiculous money..I don't see it coming back personally ,very soon nobody left on the planet will have first hand knowlege of what the factory did and next to nobody will care .
