1964 Plymouth Savoy Build

[dmoore]

Carmen Miranda and her sister!

 

[Nxcoupe]

Chuck! I think I passed you towing uour enclosed trailer out of the show as I was leaving about 1 pm.

 

[Chuck Marshall]

Chuck! I think I passed you towing uour enclosed trailer out of the show as I was leaving about 1 pm.

I left yesterday from the track about 10:15 after watching a little drag racing. Sorry I missed you!

 

[Nxcoupe]

I left yesterday from the track about 10:15 after watching a little drag racing. Sorry I missed you!

Oh, ok, this one said 64 polara on the trailer. Different car then. Yep, I should have come out earlier.

 

[theman440]

Nice car.

 

[Chuck Marshall]

When I was at the MATS a week ago on Thursday when I arrived I went to start the Savoy to take it off the trailer and I had a difficult time starting it, it was very cold at the Mats in the morning but she always fired up quickly. During the show on Friday when the judges were at my car they requested that I start my engine and also run the lights and turn signals and brake lights( never had to do that at a show before) but everything works great on my car so I wasn’t worried. But I was worried it may not start right away. Thankfully she fired right up. When I got home and parked the Savoy in the garage I took the distributor cap off and discovered my lead points were fried. It’s a dual point prestolite distributor 2444721. If you look closely you can see the plastic followers on the cam are almost flat on both with bits of white plastic stuck in the cam lube and inside the bottom of the distributor. I’m guessing over time that plastic gets brittle and dry and breaks away. Not surprised being how old it is. Thankfully I found a new point plate set on eBay and I’m going to install it but remove the condenser and second points to run my MSD digital 6AL I installed during the build. Never got around to finishing hooking it up. Ran great on just the stock dual point. I post pictures when I’m finished redoing the distributor. Thanks Chuck

 

[Chuck Marshall]

Now I noticed on the savoy the fuel hoses and clamps were leaking fuel. They leaked onto the cross Ram manifold and caused the Hemi Orange paint to blister off. I purchased the KV reproduction hose and the reproduction crimp style clamps. I like the originality of that put the quality is poor. The hose is only a year old on the engine and probably had about 20 gallons of gas flow through them and the rubber is already hard as a rock(obviously why it leaks). So I went with regular Fuel hose and modern crimp clamps to stop the leaks. The other thing is the Hemi Orange paint is the Mopar brand I used and the can reads fuel and oil resistance but obviously it’s not . I need to sand the blistering down and repaint it. I’ll post pictures when I’m done but just wanted to let members know about that.

 

[dadsbee]

Sad, but reproduction junk from the cheapest rubber man can buy. What are you running for fuel??

 

[Chuck Marshall]

Sad, but reproduction junk from the cheapest rubber man can buy. What are you running for fuel??

That’s what I figured it’s Chinese junk. I premium unleaded pump gas. Did get VP from a pump at a Chevron in Van Nuys once before taking it to spring fling last year. That’s what I thought too was California gas with the high alcohol content.

 

[Pedalpusher]

Geez, hate to read that about your ride, perfection is hard to keep up with. Spent hard earn money & get inferior product. What a ride you have sir

 

[VANDAN]

Chuck, the ethanol in the "new" gas is crippling. I plan on running a cocktail of race fuel, and non ethanol, when I get the '63 out this year. I'll let you know how it works out...

 

[Chuck Marshall]

Chuck, the ethanol in the "new" gas is crippling. I plan on running a cocktail of race fuel, and non ethanol, when I get the '63 out this year. I'll let you know how it works out...View attachment 1443671

Looking Good!

 

[Chuck Marshall]

Got my distributor rebuilt and painted, also took the front carb off while I had the fuel lines off and repaired the bubbled paint on the intake manifold.

 

[Chuck Marshall]

Also I wanted to see if I could get the MSD 6AL2 digital multi spark to operate the ignition with no success, can’t get a spark signal out of the unit even with grounding the signal white wire to ground and looking for spark, the box flashes 3 flashes which I’m finding is an internal fault within the unit, I guess I will pull it out and send it to MSD for diagnosis and repair. That unit is brand new from MSD and from the get go of installation last year I could not get it to spark. I would buy another one but they are 400+. Either way I will run the dual point again until I get it back.

 

[Chuck Marshall]

Ok so that new prestolite point plate didn’t work out, even though it was brand new out of the box the plastic for the cam follower only worked for about one minute and then broke into pieces like the other one. I guess even though it’s not used it’s still probably 59 years old? I don’t know but know I found a Pertronix drop in electronic system so I’m going with that. The MSD got repaired and on its way back to me so hopefully I’ll have it running again soon.

 

[Fran Blacker]

Do you have a picture of the distributor cam plate. Curious what it looks like?

 

[Chuck Marshall]

Do you have a picture of the distributor cam plate. Curious what it looks like?

Yes, is this what you mean? It’s a dual point only I removed one of the points to trigger the MSD.

 

[Fran Blacker]

Is the cam beat up so it might damage where points rub? I have 3 sets points and condensers wonder if I'll have problem running them?

 

[Chuck Marshall]

Is the cam beat up so it might damage where points rub? I have 3 sets points and condensers wonder if I'll have problem running them?

No the cam looked clean and smooth, I lubed it with Bosch distributor lube too. Use to use it on Porsche points years ago when I worked at the Porsche dealership

 

[Fran Blacker]

Guess I'll be prepared if I have a problem. Thanks!