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1971 - 1974 Mopars

  1. Robert Schaad

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    In Germany, I had a starter go out on my 69 Roadrunner with headers. No clearance to remove starter without pulling headers. This is in about 1980 so the headers had very little clearance. I had no gaskets for my 383 and had another starter. The starter would not come out with the headers on. So how do you change starters in this case? I took the starter apart while it was bolted up to the engine. I put the new starter on the engine APART. If you know how a MOPAR starter is assembled you can do it. It worked. Am I good. Maybe. But in Germany you must do what you can to get back on the road.
     
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      Yes, you are good. One thing I enjoy about driving these cars is the problem/solution aspect. Anyone can throw money at a problem, but, "necessity is the mother of invention."
       
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        Had a 71 340 Cuda where the starter would come out without removing the header. It wasn't a drop out but if you held your mouth just right and looked cross eyed, it would come out. It was also the 'short' starter (not a mini). Never tried it with any of my BB cars though but never had to thank God!
         
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          You are so correct. Working on a MOPAR has been so easy. Only say that because having one in Germany makes you learn and adjust. For your information, I was a member of the German MOPAR club. There are a lot of MOPARs in Europe. I have a lot of stories.
           
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          I'd like to hear them. For me it all started when I was 18 with a '75 Cordoba. I went from "complete ignoramus" to "fairly knowledgable" during the 14 years I drove that car. I have a fair amount of stories about that car. It was indestructable. And, I was the only one among family and friends that any interest in old Chryslers. They just didn't get it.
           
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          Gotta say that all the Chevy guys say how easy the GM cars are to work on but that's not what I found. When it comes to GM products, my thumbs are black but that's not so much with Fords. Much rather work on a Ford than a GM but rather work on a Mopar over both of 'dem othaz' !!
           
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            One story. I had been in Germany for about 20 years and was the MOPAR guy that many Germans knew. I was driving my 69 Charger, 440, 4 speed, in Frankfurt Germany. I saw the sigh for a car show. I followed that sign. I ended up looking at a 1969 Superbee that was broken down. Would not start. I approached the German, asked the problem and he said would not crank. Battery good, engine good. My thought, neutral safety switch. I made a jumper and put it on the starter relay to allow it to start. I told him that it would start in any gear so be sure to push in clutch. He looked at me and said, YOUR MOPAR BOB. I did not know that I was known around Germany. So cool.
             
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              Years ago of course. In 1990 I had Chevy owners working on their new rebuilt engines. They ALL seem to have problems adjusting the valves. Bitching, crying, complaining, having troubles. I was working on my 440 and spoke up very loudly telling them that I was adjusting my valves. After about 8 minutes, I yelled to them that I was done. The yelled back to me, &&**((*&^. Loved it.
               
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                I replaced a starter on '80 something Cadillac. The idea of shimming the starter got to me. A lot of it is what you're familiar with, but, I've found these old Chryslers easy to work on.
                 
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                  Yup but when you work on simple stuff and it entails using a torch, pry bars and hammers......and that was just to get a rear brake drum off! lol
                   
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                  where ya at? my family comes, from south of frankfurt.
                  near freiburg
                   
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                  Well, that's why I'm on this forum and not Super Chevy. I really don't know what to say. LOL.
                  I feel your pain.
                   
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                    Drove all over Germany in the early 70's and probably drove through Freiburg at one point but heck if I can remember lol
                     
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                    bundestrasse 3, bad krozingen, and eschbach. 2 little shit cow towns south of freiburg
                     
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                    I was working at the local Dodge dealership in 1969 when I was tasked with a starter replacement on a 428 Cougar. They had 3 bolts to mount, no way could I find a wrench or combination of sockets to get the last bolt out. The boss sent it to another shop.
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                    Got to ask how did you get the armature threw the brush plate? I have seen people that could not do it even with the starter off. Oh yea I got it, not hard at all.
                     
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                      There is a multi purpose thrust washer at the commutator end of the armature with 4 tabs that serves to hold the brushes back during assembly. More Chrysler engineering!
                      Mike
                       
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                      Lots of those LSCT's all over the country lol
                       
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                      Now you let the secret out for those that do not know. Shame on you.
                       
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                      • Robert Schaad

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                        The Key to mopar starter is the special washer that holds the Brushes open. When used properly, it is very easy to put the two halves together, even in the Engine. My first couple of starters were hell as I tried to hold the brushes open. Did not have enough hands. Later I learned of the washer and then easy as hell.
                         
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