Opinion ? 1962 Plymouth (Fury wagon) Base coat clear coat...or Single stage..??????

[rustytoolss]

I'm doing a color change from Ermine White..to Luminous Cordovan/ and a Ermine White top. It took me over 2 years to decide what colors to use. Now my next problem is Basecoat/ clear coat...OR Single stage paint ? I can get the paint either way...I'm looking for opinions on what type of paint to use (BCCC- Single stage). It's be 30+ years since I've painted anything , back then it was Acrylic Enamel, so I've never used BCCC ever! Right now all I want to do is get the engine bay painted. The body will be done at a latter point (by someone with more painting skills than me)
So sound OFF...your opinion .....BCCC/ or Single stage ?
PS, don't try to change my mind to not do a color change.

 

[eldubb440]

Luminous Cordovan? is that a metallic color?

base clear is waaayyyy easier than metallic single stage, by a factor of a hundred; but you have experience with acrylic enamel....... which is what was used back in the day..... it would have a different look than base clear.....

as you are aware, no sanding/buffing on single stage metallic, so you need both cleanliness and a near perfect application...... not to give up any trade secrets, but base/clear is very forgiving

 

[topside]

What are the goals for the project? Nice driver or show car? Solvent-based or waterborne 2-stage? If waterborne, air movement is more important than with solvent-based.
Single-stage will be less expensive, but more demanding in terms of cleanliness & application. BC/CC will have better UV & other protection, easier to deal with imperfections, but you'll pay more for materials, if that's an issue. I personally prefer BC/CC except where a car has to look original and was originally a single-stage enamel.
Luminous Cordovan is a rick dark brown shade, metallic, and rarely seen.

 

[33 IMP]

I like your color choice.
First, I am NO painter! But I would do under the hood, jams, etc, single stage. Since you are gonna have someone else shoot the car, I would have it done in bc,cc for sure.
If it was a real max car, sure, shoot it as close to original as possible. Its not, so put the best paint ony ou can.
And eldubb makes a great point about metallics.

 

[RemCharger]

Luminous Cordovan? is that a metallic color?

base clear is waaayyyy easier than metallic single stage, by a factor of a hundred; but you have experience with acrylic enamel....... which is what was used back in the day..... it would have a different look than base clear.....

as you are aware, no sanding/buffing on single stage metallic, so you need both cleanliness and a near perfect application...... not to give up any trade secrets, but base/clear is very forgiving

What's your thoughts on single stage paint nowadays.. is it like say in the late 90s? With the vocs etc. Or is it a crappier mix now

 

[eldubb440]

What's your thoughts on single stage paint nowadays.. is it like say in the late 90s? With the vocs etc. Or is it a crappier mix now

haven't really used it much at all, but the urethane single stage should be as tough as urethane clear....... when it comes to my car, I just might go single stage 68 GG1 green metallic


acrylic enamel flows out like nothing else and looks incredible when applied right....... it's just not as tough

 

[RemCharger]

That's what I thought. No need to polish when done right.

 

[FU64RY]

My neighbor is a high end professional body and painter.
He told me that bb/cc is super easy to apply and very forgiving..
I just got my 96 Dakota back from Macco. Single stage, it looks pretty good. They wanted twice as much for bb/cc.
Cost was for an Overall $1287. Neighbor said he could not buy the material for that much, let alone do the whole job.

 

[FU64RY]

I'm doing a color change from Ermine White..to Luminous Cordovan/ and a Ermine White top. It took me over 2 years to decide what colors to use. Now my next problem is Basecoat/ clear coat...OR Single stage paint ? I can get the paint either way...I'm looking for opinions on what type of paint to use (BCCC- Single stage). It's be 30+ years since I've painted anything , back then it was Acrylic Enamel, so I've never used BCCC ever! Right now all I want to do is get the engine bay painted. The body will be done at a latter pint (by someone with more painting skills than me)
So sound OFF...your opinion .....BCCC/ or Single stage ?
PS, don't try to change my mind to not do a color change.View attachment 1483105

Just noticed your garage floor looks just like mine with the drain in the middle. I get a lot of cold outside air coming in in the winter. My garage is heated so I gorilla tape over the drain in the winter. Idea you may have not thought of if yours goes to daylight. Nice SW. What engine?

 

[rustytoolss]

Just noticed your garage floor looks just like mine with the drain in the middle. I get a lot of cold outside air coming in in the winter. My garage is heated so I gorilla tape over the drain in the winter. Idea you may have not thought of if yours goes to daylight. Nice SW. What engine?

It's got a 318 poly, thanks for the drain idea.

 

[FU64RY]

It's got a 318 poly, thanks for the drain idea.

Will you have it at Carlisle Next month?

 

[rustytoolss]

Luminous Cordovan? is that a metallic color?

base clear is waaayyyy easier than metallic single stage, by a factor of a hundred; but you have experience with acrylic enamel....... which is what was used back in the day..... it would have a different look than base clear.....

as you are aware, no sanding/buffing on single stage metallic, so you need both cleanliness and a near perfect application...... not to give up any trade secrets, but base/clear is very forgiving

yes, it is a metallic paint color. Never knew about NO wet sanding metallic single stage..thanks for the tip.

 

[rustytoolss]

Will you have it at Carlisle Next month?

I could only wish, but not a chance

 

[rustytoolss]

I like your color choice.
First, I am NO painter! But I would do under the hood, jams, etc, single stage. Since you are gonna have someone else shoot the car, I would have it done in bc,cc for sure.
If it was a real max car, sure, shoot it as close to original as possible. Its not, so put the best paint ony ou can.
And eldubb makes a great point about metallics.

IF I were to use single stage (engine bay/door jambs), and BCCC on the body. Would the colors match ? since different type of paints ?

 

[rustytoolss]

What are the goals for the project? Nice driver or show car? Solvent-based or waterborne 2-stage? If waterborne, air movement is more important than with solvent-based.
Single-stage will be less expensive, but more demanding in terms of cleanliness & application. BC/CC will have better UV & other protection, easier to deal with imperfections, but you'll pay more for materials, if that's an issue. I personally prefer BC/CC except where a car has to look original and was originally a single-stage enamel.
Luminous Cordovan is a rick dark brown shade, metallic, and rarely seen.

The car is just going to be a driver. At this point I have NO idea weather the paint is solvent based/ or water based (have not checked into that yet) thanks for that information.

 

[rustytoolss]

This is an updated question that I posted from back in March this year. But since I'm getting closer to the painting part of the project, I thought I would ask you guys one more time. Thanks for all the helpfull advice...wish me luck.

 

[rustytoolss]

Luminous Cordovan? is that a metallic color?

base clear is waaayyyy easier than metallic single stage, by a factor of a hundred; but you have experience with acrylic enamel....... which is what was used back in the day..... it would have a different look than base clear.....

as you are aware, no sanding/buffing on single stage metallic, so you need both cleanliness and a near perfect application...... not to give up any trade secrets, but base/clear is very forgiving

yes, it is a metallic paint color. Never knew about NO wet sanding metallic sihgle stage..thanks for the tip. Cordovan is the color of the steering column. (it's a 1962 factory color for Plymouth)

 

[eldubb440]

IF I were to use single stage (engine bay/door jambs), and BCCC on the body. Would the colors match ? since different type of paints ?

good chance of a mismatch, plus your buying more products......

 

[JPrusinows]

Best thing about single stage is touchups. It can be touched u, hit with a little wet 3000 and a chip disappears. Not so much with BC/CC. But I think you lose that advantage with the metallic. So I would lean towards BC/CC for the whole job.

 

[Darter6]

I just want to see it when it's done !!!