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The age old question. Is it a Hotrod or s Streetrod? What makes them so?

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Get ready for many varied
opinions.
For me, it's more of a time
period, when as a kid in the
late sixties/early seventies,
any car modified was called a
Hotrod. By todays'
definition, Hotrod has
morphed into the Streetrod
relm. What is the dividing
line (or is there one)?
With my old truck build,
it's definition has been all
over the map. From Hotrod
to Streetrod, (to me) the
cringeworthy Ratrod.
What say you?
 
I can't say I've ever used the term "street rod" in my life.
Probably due more to my age than anything else...
 
The amount of money expended to get to completion.
Money spent then, with Inflation, would equal what is
spent now.
It could be that Moparedtn's comment fits the bill
as I have a tendency to label any modified car/truck
as a Hotrod, but now enters the Restomod.
The lines seem to be not so cut and dried.
 
I can't say I've ever used the term "street rod" in my life.
Probably due more to my age than anything else...
I can't help but think that bootleggers were the initial
builders of the hotrod. And that those mechanical
lessons learned were broadcast amongst a wide range
of go fast enthusiast, including NASCAR and the NHRA.
 
They are all hotrods.

All this bs about streetrod, ratrod, restmod is each generation putting their own spin on things. When somebody in town tubbed and lowered a model T , it was a hot rod.
The past several generations have an affinity for making up new words.
I mean, ask yourself this....
Can a Streetrod only be driven on the street ? Are hotrods, ratrods, and restomods not allowed on the street ?
Now obviously I am being facitious here, but they are all the same thing.
Back in the day when someone swapped out their motor, add lift shackles, Cragers, and paint....did they have a streetrod ? Did they have a restomod ? Did they have a rat rod ? The answer is...they have a hot rod. A car was Hot ( meaning souped up, fast, cool, etc), Rod is just slang for a car, much the same as jalopy, wheels, etc. This same basic terminology covers streetrods, ratrods, and restomods too.

This is my opinion only, but I will share it freely !
 
If you go by NSRA guideline.
Street rod is 1949 and older ( or is that 1939 ??? )
Hot rod is 1950 and newer
 
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If you go by NSRA guideline.
Street rod is 1949 and older
Hot rod is 1950 and newer
To me, and this is personal opinion of course, that is
not correct. I don't recall anyone referring to their
T-bucket as a streetrod.
What year was hotrod mag founded....1948.
 
I think they are all Hotrods I think the term Street Rod came from magazines or car show names like Street Rod Nationals kind of thing just to make it their own name for it
 
Just my brain, but when I hear the term (Street Rod ) I think of the fat fender cars modified , the 40 fords, 38 chevys coupes , sedans ect.
Nice paint, Wheels , suspension, V8s , AC, power steering, ect.
When I hear ( Hot Rod ) I think of stripped down , in primer, huge *** engine, 32 fenderless ford coupe, gassers, day 3 cars we all had.
Day 2 was the wheels and exhaust,
Day 3 was when we thought we knew what we were doing lol,
Big cams on stock springs, holleys puking fuel all over, open headers and 4:11s.
Just my 2 cents.
 
I always associated the term "streetrod" with early, heavily modified stuff

and the term "hotrod" with later (50's up) mostly stock bodies with performance "bolt ons"
 
If you ever watched racing like drag racing I recall people who are professional saying" I had a pretty good hot rod today."
To me any car that is made by the owner and modified to go faster is the definition of a Hot Rod.
 
I just call mine 'hot wheels' as in, 'I'll jump in my hot wheels and head on over'. This applies to everything I drive, even the boring stuff and, occassionaly, my truck. It's just easy to say, like calling my quads and my Slingshot 'bikes'. They're not, but who cares? For me it's only a hot rod if it smokes the tires at will and the term 'street rod' makes me think it's a high dollar unit.
 
I never liked the term Street Rod but it was a pre 48 car modified and used on the street. Hot Rod to me is a pre 54 but everyone has a different view. What really chaps my butt is younger phone users that call any 60-90 car a "musclecar", shows they have no idea what a musclecar is.
 
State DMVs will define what's a Street Rod.

Pennsylvania's description...

"Street rod—A motor vehicle, or a reproduction thereof, with a model year of 1948 or older which has been materially altered or modified by the removal, addition or substitution of essential parts and with a gross weight or registered gross weight of not more than 9,000 pounds."
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To me; a 'hot rod' is almost anything that was modified...
But in nowadays vernacular, that was in the 40's & 50's
IMO it was more the rebellious youth, them coming back from the war/s
needed some excitement/adrenalin-ridden fun/automotive style
In the cheap 20s to later 30's American used cars, with V8 transplants
stripped down for performance modified to taste

**think of John Milner's Coupe in American Graffiti,
that is "a Hot Rod by my standards"

that morphed into
to me;
a car modified that doesn't fit into a niche category,
is a Hot Rod too
just means you modified it...

To me;
at 1st actual 'street rod' is more of the 20's to late 30's era cars
IMO 40's cars are more Hot Rod/Gassers etc.
Street Rods/open T-bucket/or Tub or model A/B or 32-37 era modified,
lots of chrome, lowered, coupes/roadsters, highboys bodies ontop of the frame
or lowboys channels down over the frames, fenders or fenderless
or an early Hot Rod, more refined...

(upto the 80's) Wild graphics/paint
that morphed into today's Street Rods
(80's-90's Popular Hotrodding mag. version, 'more showy')
drenched with billet, tweed, leather, bright paint colors, big & little tires
maybe multiple carbs/maybe a blower, no hood or cut hood with no sidepanels,
usually adorning a transplant, of a loud American V8 engines

some even went into the Pro-Nostalgia era 1980s
(sort of Pro-Street for hot rods/street rods)
lowered, narrowed rears, fat tires, LA rake, racecar looking 20's to 40's cars

then;
that morphed into & more so a Street Rod got tamed down
in the 90's to;
no go show boats, Brizio/Boyd styling with same-era cars,
mostly old farts/cruisers-couples, with cash
many times not as much performance-oriented, more show cars/cruisers,
spoke wheels, full fenders, creature comforts, AC big stereos
many towing a lil trailer painted the same...
(guys/couples mostly affluent empty nesters in their 50s - 80s)
that era's showgoers, all sitting behind them, talking about their youth
in a car nothing like what they have built now, but wish they had then
now cars covered in billet, $40k paint, usually a SBC (or now LS powered) :blah:

IMO;
The 'rat rod' movement
was 'sort of' in it's early stages
was much like "what the 40's-50's era Hot Rods were",
stuff the younger war vets came back & did, true rebels
unrefined cars with mismatched parts, for pure speed or post war era looks
lake racers etc.
Then that Rat Rod morphed into as much
rust & patina & ****/stuff you could pile on
an old rust bucket car/truck of any era, make it look like fake/junk/worn
with Rockabilly music/band playing in the background & people dressed in
50's hipster/greaser clothes/filled with tattoos
that's still morphing today...

I call many cars 'hot rods' still, I've even referred to my many Muscle cars
or the RRs or Chargers as my Hot Rod, in the 70's
now more accurate description is Resto-Mods, the new vernacular...
To me;
A partially restored/or fully restored Hot Rod-mostly from the Muscle Car Eras
60's - 70s of trucks or cars (even 50's to 80's), could go earlier or later eras now...

Then go to ninth degree; Pro-Touring
modern drivetrain, suspension, big brakes, lowered, paint like mirror/glass,
bigger/wider wheels & tires, leather interior & accessories/creature comforts
A/C & Overdrives :blah:
with that it becomes that is a Pro-touring car
or something in-between...

did that cover it ?
That probably confused most people, even more
I lived most of it, from my stepdad in the early 60's
to my lifestyle in the 70's to present day...
That's how I see it & refer to it...

my $1.25

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Streetrods are billet, modern amenities, modern wheels, suspension, fiberglass, etc....
Hotrods are traditional builds from the 40's-mid 60's.

My brother is seriously into the hotrod scene. His 33 is from a container in Kally. It was put away in the 60's. He rebuilt what was there, made it safe, and drives it as it was stored.
His 32, is a brand-new build, done to exacting old-school ideas and technology. He's well into the six-figures with that one.

He's as much a snob about his hobby, as the oem muscle-car guys are. Don't call his stuff "street-rods" or "rat-rods". He'll educate you, if you like it or not.


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